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Samsung LE-32R51B - How good is it really?

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by Ilmer, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. Ilmer

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    Hello guys.

    My friend just bought this beutifull looking 32" Samsung tv named LE-32R51B - He got it really cheap from a webshop called befro.dk (http://www.befro.dk/shop/default.asp?SetLng=1&productid=LE32R51B) and we actually had it the day after the order comfirmation :eek: :clap:

    But there´s something bothering me - How good is it compared to the other 32" LCD tv´s on the market? And is it worth spending a little extra on in terms of cables and such?

    Thanks in advance :)
     
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    The TV is great in every aspect. The image quality is as good as the best brands out there (JVC and Panasonic). The PC D-sub is probably the best found on LCD TV's of this generation. It has al the connections you need, and the DNIe handles all kinds of material verry wel. The specs are incredible. In my opinion it stand out (in a shop next to other sets).

    The series prices went down first (the advice pricepoint is way higher then the actual price!) but because of the demand its going up. Some sets have problems, but then again, that goes for every television set in the book.
     
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    I've had mine 2 days, and whilst I'm still securing cables and what-have-you to try and get my existing equipment to display as well as possible, I've been nothing but impressed with it so far.

    I think the quality of the Analogue, DVD, Xbox and even Freeview signals is brilliant. I haven't tested any HD stuff yet, but should be able to do so in a couple of days time, once I've got more cables, etc.

    All in all, I think it's been a corking buy. Yes, problems have been reported as regards tearing in HD modes, but these don't appear to be affecting everyone. That (unfortunately) is how the cookie crumbles sometimes. If there's a problem with it, then you can always get a refund.

    Overall, though, a cracker. Highly recommended.
     
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    That is a good point. The good thing that the internet brings us is the fact that we get acces to all the knowledge in the world. But there''s a paradox. The good part can turn out to be the bad part of the internet as well.

    Nowadays, a manufacturer will have a big problem when things go wrong. Even if a few televisions have problems (say, 40 sets out of 4000 have problems), it will be on the internet.

    And then tehre the other thing that makes things look worse then they are. Its the same with LCD's in general. If you believe the complaints on forums there aren't any good LCD's without dead pixels. Its just because you hardly hear the happy customers with displays that don't have any problems.

    I am incredibly happy with my Samsung set. it is great with every mode I've tested so far (as stated above). If I hadn't bene browsing these forums I would never have heard of tearing (because there is none on my set!).
     
  5. David Mackenzie

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    If this is anything like the LE-32R41B then I have to completely disagree in every aspect. The image scaling was poor and the downscaling of 1080i material was terrible, with pixellation everywhere. For the price, it's good but as good as the best? Not a chance.

    If however the R51B is totally different to the R41B then please excuse my comments!
     
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    Well I own a R51B (which is to my knowledge the same as the 41), and I think downscaling of 1080i is pretty good (and I haven't seen any pixelation at all). In fact I think it looks awesome, now that I remember some britney concert in 1080i :cool: All in all I would also recommend this tv for the price. Maybe what Lyris says is right, and you can find better tv's if you pay a lot more. However in this price range it's unbeatable IMHO.
     
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    Well I own a R51B (which is to my knowledge the same as the 41), and I think downscaling of 1080i is pretty good (and I haven't seen any pixelation at all). In fact I think it looks awesome, now that I remember some britney concert in 1080i :cool: All in all I would also recommend this tv for the price. Maybe what Lyris says is right, and you can find better tv's if you pay a lot more. However in this price range it's unbeatable IMHO.
     
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    How does the R51B deal with analog TV-broadcasts?
     
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    Does anyone know if there is a difference between the 41 and the 51? I just noticed that the response time of the 51 is 8ms,and I thought the 41 was 12ms - is that correct?

    The 41 seems a little cheaper, but I have just discovered a great deal from Currys (of all places!) which is offering the 26" 51 with Freeview at £699 inc delivery!
    I will definitely get this if anyone can confirm that this is superior to the 41...
    :lease:
     
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    Not sure about the R51B - but I think the new model is the T51B.

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    I would love to know if anyone has information on the differences also.

    T
     

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    Would you buy this TV for gaming (all DC, XBOX, PS2, GC, XBOX 360), football, sky+ and DVDs.

    I am concerned about refresh rate due to xbox demo pod.
     
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    Where theres Samsung, theres LYRIS..... :rolleyes:
     
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    whereever there's Lyris, theres someone pointing out that Lyris is there :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    Hey hey, I gave my answer to the question :D
    I think we can conclude that most people are very happy with it but that perfectionists aren't, so it doesn't quite deserve a "5/5" picture rating.
     
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    Where there's Samsung there's a new model every month ;)
     
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    Anyone wanna buy an LE32R41BDX?
    I've got the upgrade bug already
    :D :D :D :D :D :D
     
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    I've got the Samsung LE32R41BD and it is awesome!! You'd need to spend around double it's price to even begin to better it - in fact the ONLY LCD I have seen that is better, is the award winning Phillips one but its around £1900!!
     
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    :lesson: Dont buy a samsung if you hate smearing skin

    Better go for the new sony's (same panels)
    The sony's have a better backlight/lightsensor controll
    and better picture controller
    All samsung lcd tv's have DNle that can't be turned off (not even in the service menu)
    viewing peoples skin on broadcasts smeares terrible
    automatic backlight controll has only 7 steps in luminance
    and shows the changing steps during viewing
    motion even on the newer LE32M61 is better on S32 and V32.
    Dont choose the most bright lcd in the shop,
    Try watching it in normal room conditions and notice the difference in
    blacks and contrast.

    Dont let anyone tell you there is little to no difference between S and V32
    Watch them side by side with different feeds and see for yourself
    The V32 handles downscaling a 1080i feed with much better result.
    The most easy noticible difference is feeding a dvd with motion or still trees and/or grass through scart and see what you like best.

    Vga use on the samsung is fantastic, able to display native pc res and in vga mode DNle is turned off.

    Sony's dont display native panel resolution when using vga

    I had the Le32R51 for 3 weeks pretty much liked it but returned it after tearing on XBOX and not getting used to the smearing / dynamic backlight/sensor controll and after seeing the v32 at a friends house.

    Oh yeah if you often watch teletekst the brightness on sony's when watching is adjustable, not on the samsung but on the samsung you can watch tv and text side by side

    Picture in picture on the samsung is only usable with hdmi.

    Good luck with your choice

    Ray
     
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    What is smearing skin excatly?
    I mainly plan on using the Samsung for playing Xbox360 and PC monitor via a VGA cable although I will be watching some TV on it (just channels 1-5 but I may buy a freeview box soon).
     
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    I never saw smearing skin on my LE32R41B, but it's also known as the "clayface" problem which happens on any sort of video that's had too much temporal noise reduction (NR that works over the time axis). It also happens when using the analogue tuner on my Sony TV.

    Examples of the problem on a Sharp LCD here:
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5520490&&#post5520490
     
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    with smearing skin i mean that the sharpness and colours with skin look washed out during the normal motion peoples faces show during a face shot.
     
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    Sorry Lyris can't agree with you. I don't doubt you have had a bad experience with faulty set{s} but the pic quality is 5/5 or even 10/10 on mine. Judged by any others I have seen. (most)
    I am a perfectionist ;) . However, as even you are unable to define perfection as its always unatainable then its not fair to say any set on the market is perfect or not.
    I went to a friends house to look at one of those so called amazing Panasonics. The pic quality was not as good as my Sammy. He came to see mine and agreed. Now he is not satisfied with his Panny.
    It's never ending. As soon as a model is in the shops its obsolete coz they have the next one on the production line.... :)
     
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    This is how I feel - the panny really is no better than my Sammy, and I stand by the fact that the only lcd I've seen that has better PQ than my Sammy is the Phillips - but its twice the price! And tbh for that money I'd rather buy a larger Sammy or Toshiba!
     
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    Do this tv have HDMI input ? I was told it doesn't. Is this right.
     
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    No, it does.
     

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