Samsung LCD or Panasonic plasma

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  1. The Jayler

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    This used to be so much easier.
    I was all set to grab a Pannasonic TH42P70 plasma but thought i had better show the girlfriend what it was i was thinking of changing our 46'' dlp set with.
    Saw the Panny and to be honest i was disapointed. Saw 3 sets in 2 shops, one with some crappy comet feed. One with a HD-DVD feed and another with a better SD feed. It looked greyed out on all the pictures. And the missus said she thought the picture was juddery on 2 of the sets.
    We then sew the Samsung LE4286 (i belive).
    This was fed with a Blu-ray feed and a crappy comet feed. Both images looked good. The Blu-ray looked fantastic. We both prefered the look of the Samsung.
    Now i have always been a beliver that LCD's were inferior to Plasmas but after today, i would have to say they were equal, maybe a slight edge on a £2000 Pioneer. I didn't see any motion blurring which i could 2 years ago. The colours were a little bright but i hope i will be able to alter that.
    I have though had a bit of a scan throiugh the forums and the Le4086 does seem riddles with probelms. Can any one answer the following please.
    1 - 1080p 24fps. Is this possible on the Samsung?
    2 - Freeview judder from a Humax PVR 9200t. Will this exsist?
    3 - New model. Worth waiting for?
    4 - Which firmeware do the new Samsungs ship with?

    I love the look of the Samsung as does the missus. Just not considered LCD before today.
     
  2. davejm

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    1) Yeah, the M86/M87 support 24fps on Bluray etc.
    2) The freeview judder just plagues the internal freeview decoder, so you'll have no problems with an external tuner.
    3) The new model supports the 100/120hz processing, but you'll have to pay more for them, obviously. I'm really happy with my M87, even watching fast moving stuff like football, and motion blurring isn't anywhere near as bad a problem as it used to be. I wouldn't bother holding out for the new models for this reason, but you may want to check out the rest of the specs.
    4) It seems to be pot luck, so your best bet is to ask if you can check the serial number before you buy, which should give you an indication as to how new the set us. I got mine from Cost Co (with 3 year warranty) so I was able to look at the boxes and get the newest one they had. Basically, there's a number under the barcode, and the last 6 (or 7) digits are preceded by a 'P' and then another number. I got a P6, but I think you can get P7 and maybe P8's now. Mine doesn't have the movie plus bug, or the freeview judder (as far as I can tell).

    Hope this helps.
     
  3. The Jayler

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    Cheers.
    Whats the cheapest price any one has seen for the le40m87?
     
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    The new model is the F86.

    Whilst I agree it is more expensive than the M87 currently, it's actually cheaper than the M87 was at launch.

    The 40" M87 launched at £1299.99, BT are selling the F86 on pre-order for £1,028.99 inc vat & delivery (2.5% off that too through Quidco).

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5430723#post5430723
     
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    I'm thinking of taking the plunge with the Samsung LE-40M87BDX - £770ish

    Any final comments or suggestions before I spend my money?


    Richer Sounds are offering the Samsung LE-40N87BDX which I believe is a worse tv?
     
  7. Ralphy1981

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    The M87 is 1080p

    The N87 is 720p

    iirc.
     
  8. daveleeuk

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    I currently own a 42" panny viera plasma, and am buying a samsung LCD for my office, on the way home (hopefully) so i can tell you for sure later hopefully!

    But atm I would say the plasma, especially if 40"+
     
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    i'm in the same " Samsung LCD or Panasonic plasma" boat

    I want a TV that handles HD gaming and handles SD broadcasts like a CRT

    i'm still weighing up the motion-blurring issues of LCD VS the screen-burn issues of plasma
     
  10. Ralphy1981

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    Get a Samsung LCD.

    Motion blur is virtualy non existant on my LE40M87 set.

    It really is an awesome tv.
     
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    I would say a 10 bit panel with older firmware is better than getting one with 8 bit panel with new firmware.

    You can request new firmware/board so you've got the best of both worlds.

    The Samsung supports 24hz but did seem to judder, in another thread not sure if the display is 24hz or a multiple of that, or converted to 50/60hz...anyone with 10bit SQ02 and 2007 firmware confirm there is no judder with Blu-Ray? I don't have my own HD player yet

    Freeview judder has been sorted with 1002 DTV software. Latest firmware is 2012, but I think this set has been sorted way before that, somewhere after 1010, and before 2007. Be interesting if anyone can find a complete bug fix list (mines now 2007, I had a 1010 board)

    Also might have a problem with pink/green blotching.
     
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    Both are 1080p. The M87 is better though, it has the Super Clear Panel for excellent black levels.
     

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