I agree.thats why when you put it into game mode it works,as this turns all motion off unless you turn it on in the game mode settings,it's like it's on all the time.i wonder if the 4k upscaling chip needs it to functionI'm pretty sure automotion it's causing the whole problem, when you turn on the TV it works in the background, but in the menu it indicates that it is off, I'm pretty sure the problem is this feature,
because I can't process a variable refresh rate because UI Interface is 60hz fps but movies, shows, or live streaming is different 24p, 25, 30, or 50 but ui interface of apps is 60fps and that's why problems happen.
When I'm watching youtube from pc if I don't move mouse cursor the problem is not there sometimes for 1 hours but when I moved mouse stuttering is back for few seconds because is mouse and windows interface is 60hz but videos in youtube is 24, 25,or 30 fps.
This does not happen in others tv or monitors but in this tv hapend because have a function "AUTO"motion it tries to fix automatically judder and stuttering but the opposite happens, on the contrary, it causes problems.
The interesting thing is when you turn on the TV and change picture mode example natural mode for few seconds and back to favorite picture mode example FILMMAKERS MODE the problems go away, but when you turn off the TV and turn it on again, the problem returns, then you need to change again picture mode for few seconds.
Whether anyone has tried to turn off motion function from tv service menu and tell what's going on, because I'm sure this one auto motion function causes the whole problem.
Your correct, just wish I had the chance to show an engineer the problem!..If anybody has an engineer booked to look at this judder, you need to get them to see the judder, then engage game mode to show them its gone. Flick back and forth game mode on and off then there is no way they can say the source is the problem.
One Q60A 2021 Qled reviewer said even with the new processor for smooth playback he noticed sometimes a delay time to time.
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So sounds like Samsung engineers are still not aware of this bug or unable to fix it.
Interesting rrp he mentioned $599 in US for the 43" Q60A 2021 TV, in UK its priced £750 which is probably £300-400 too much, maybe brits and europeans are paying that 900million Randsom ship fee.
Yes agree. As I have it on game mode a lot due to the issues. I think even that has had an impact with brightness dimming. So for instance, when watching a programme that goes from a dark scene to a brighter scene, the tv now takes a second before it brightens. I’ve also had it a few times where it forgets to brighten and the scene stays really dark until the scene changes and it then corrects itself.I swear (often quite a lot) that things are worse since the March fudge-update. Watching the Monte Carlo tennis on Amazon Prime direct from the internet without any intermediary tech, there's some weird sh*t going on- the contrast/ brightness changes after a second between different camera shots and what seems to be judder or mass frame dropping. I WISH I'd bought a Sony. My previous 3D Samsung (bought in 2014) was wonderful and faultless and gave me brand overconfidence. This is my TV now whether I like it or not, but I find this glitch immensely annoying. Yes I can flick through the picture modes to ease the problem, but I shouldn't have to and I have to do it EVERY time I change broadcast source. Samsung, but all the notes are wrong...
Well if Samsung have fundamentally changed the image quality after we have purchased and owned the set by dimming and pumping brightness aggressively, then this TV is no longer performing to the same standard it was at time of purchase. That was the standard we agreed to keep the TV, and expect it to perform at this (albeit dodgy motion) quality. Not reduce performance by changing specifications over the air updates. Its the same as Apple slowing your phone down so you buy another one.Update version 1497.0 - March 2021
- A bug in ambient mode has been fixed.
- Adjustments to the EU energy regulations in 2021 have been made.
I don’t understand why a tv that’s already been released has to conform to new EU regulations anyway. If you bought a vacuum cleaner and they then changed the regulations, they wouldn’t stop you using the one you bought.Well if Samsung have fundamentally changed the image quality after we have purchased and owned the set by dimming and pumping brightness aggressively, then this TV is no longer performing to the same standard it was at time of purchase. That was the standard we agreed to keep the TV, and expect it to perform at this (albeit dodgy motion) quality. Not reduce performance by changing specifications over the air updates. Its the same as Apple slowing your phone down so you buy another one.
Might be worth trying to set the brightness on the ambient mode to 35 and see if it stops the dark to light scenes been as badI miss my Kuro
I have ambient light mode all set to off as don’t like it changing itself but fingers crossed we get another update soon that helps sort the issue again. Tv is full of bugs and then they go and add more into the mix. Utterly unbelievable.Might be worth trying to set the brightness on the ambient mode to 35 and see if it stops the dark to light scenes been as bad
We may well have left but we will have signed up to loads of legislation before we left.I may have missed something but I'm sure we left the EU, so why change things?
Don’t suppose there’s any fix as such for this at moment. Luckily I’m only noticing mainly with extremes. So going from really dark or black screen (with just titles or words on screen) to a brighter scene is where I find the delay of around a second for screen to brighten again. Usually everything else seems ok. I double checked and no eco-setting has been reenabled so tv is doing it as part of latest update I think.We may well have left but we will have signed up to loads of legislation before we left.
Plus we have EU area model TVs so we will get the same update regardless of if we actually need to conform to the legislation.
So just been thinking, if I'm always in game mode do I still get hdr 10+ 10 bit or does it get downgraded to 8 bit or less