SACD, DVD-Audio & Blu Ray-Audio Discussion Thread

Numpty112233

Active Member
Okay, thanks I understand now. I bought the HFPA Blu-ray audio disc back in 2014, which has the Steve Wilson stereo and multi-channel re-mixes ;)
Slight difference between £15 with another 15% discount off and £66 lol, especially since my Denon only does stereo... I'm not sure it'll play BluRay either - will need to try.
I was a bit worried re-reading my glowing words based on just a 1st listen and so have replayed it and somewhat with relief have come to the same conclusion 2nd time round, particularly with tracks 12 through to 16. These are, of course, purely my own opinion and others are equally valid. What's yours?
 

SeeMoreDigital

Well-known Member
Slight difference between £15 with another 15% discount off and £66 lol, especially since my Denon only does stereo...
I paid £11.47 for 'Songs From The Big Chair' and £11.79 for 'The Hurting'.... :)
 

Numpty112233

Active Member
Posted this on my UPDATED Denon PMA-2500NE & DCD1600NE review - a voyage of discovery…
thread but thought it equally valid here;-

I have finally concluded I am officially Old.


Not because not only do I call a lady “Hello there” as I kiss her on the cheek and make direct eye contact with a winning smile simply because I can’t remember her name, but half the time I can’t remember what I am supposed to be doing, why I am there, or even a particular word mid sentence, which is most frustrating. Not because every two minutes I am bursting for, but can’t pee. Not because I still have two hairs on my head only because I’ve pulled them up from my arse crack. Not because I can finally(!) recognise the signals a woman wants my body but what’s more I’m not really interested because she may have been beautiful thirty years ago but still acts like she is. Not because I can’t read the restaurant bill cos I’ve forgotten my specs. And nor is it because (forgive me cos I can’t remember this one…)


As valid as these reasons are for concluding one is entering the hinterland of one’s life I was still in denial until I have finally concluded I really like jazz. Eek!


I fully blame my Denon DCD-1600NE - PMA-2500NE - Monitor Audio Gold 300 for this brutal realisation at my tender age of merely 52. (Yes, dear forum reader, that must make most of you on here feel positively ancient.) For they make even well recorded / played jazz sing beautifully.


Whether it is Jim Brock playing “Jordan” or “O Vazio” (spotify link below - if ever you were looking for a redbook CD where all tracks are worthy of hifi audition then Jazz Kaleidoscope RR-910 is one) or the 3 SACDs in the Jazz at the Pawnshop 30th Anniversary PRSACD 7879, I can at last now fully appreciate and get much pleasure from such skilled and complex musicianship, the hifi revealing it in all its detail, delicacy and dynamic range with both transparency and emotion. Or should that last word be husky sexiness far greater than the afore referred to vain 50 year old man-eater with emotional baggage.


Don’t get me wrong - I still find some jazz decidedly unpleasant. Note the phrase “well recorded / played” above. One or two of you may remember that in my op of my 1st thread I mentioned the first SACD I ever heard. I had only just got the DCD-1600NE player and stuck on Herbie Hancock’s “Sextant” album, which I described thus; “screeches were like fingernails down a blackboard at full volume.” Not knowing the album prior to this initial audition I couldn’t have picked a worse random first candidate. I was quick to suspect the new equipment but have subsequently listened to the CD layer on my oldest system with it’s Castle Chester 1/4 horn floorstanders. These speakers are so laid back in their presentation I suspect they have been internally wired with marijuana. And yet my ears still bled. Going from brutal morning alarm / pub clearing music to the soporific opposite neither am I a fan of Diana Krall. I may be officially old but if I should ever make it so far as a retirement home with my balls still intact and this is playing in the elevator then I will throw myself out of the top window just to feel alive.


I wasn’t planning on expanding my sufficiently large music collection when getting this new system, however the sheer pleasure it gives has had me buying large quantities of SACDs, LPs, CDs and high res downloads of various genres including jazz such as Charles Mingus, Miles Davis, John Coltrane and Blazing Redheads.


But perhaps most of my new purchases could be better defined as “jazz fusion”, whatever that is (I am not a fan of pigeonholing music - there are to me only 3 types; I like it, I don’t mind it, I dislike it). I have acquired a number of (Devadip) Carlos Santana, Steely Dan, Spyro Gyra, Acoustic Alchemy, Talk Talk and other such “mainstream with jazz influence” albums that are superbly performed, recorded and mastered and which reward concentrated listening. And then there is “jazz / classical fusion” such as Dido & Aeneazz SACD (Eric Vloeimans PTC5186758), Homilia SACD (541470610462) and Eddie Daniels’ Heart of Brazil 5.6DSD download, each one not merely of “audiophile” standard but beautiful music beautifully played, just like me on a 1st date.


Oh yes, I’ve remembered now, but the moment has passed…








 

Theo Maxtible

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Now jazz is one genre that I'm really struggling to appreciate, and is therefore well and truly under-represented in my music collection. I'm sort of trying to like it, but find it difficult.

.......and even though I shall soon be entering my 7th decade, and my beautiful Arcam DV137, Cambridge CXU and Arcam AVR350 really bring music to life, and have without a doubt helped me to appreciate music/albums that I was previously ambivalent about, I'm getting nowhere with jazz.

Having said that, I own two SACDs of the genre that I find very impressive. The first I bought was Dave Brubeck's "Time Out". To think that this was recorded in 1959! The other SACD is a more recent addition to my set, and that is the Getz / Gilberto disc with (amongst others) the Girl from Ipanema on it.
 

Numpty112233

Active Member
Now jazz is one genre that I'm really struggling to appreciate, and is therefore well and truly under-represented in my music collection. I'm sort of trying to like it, but find it difficult.

.......and even though I shall soon be entering my 7th decade, and my beautiful Arcam DV137, Cambridge CXU and Arcam AVR350 really bring music to life, and have without a doubt helped me to appreciate music/albums that I was previously ambivalent about, I'm getting nowhere with jazz.

Having said that, I own two SACDs of the genre that I find very impressive. The first I bought was Dave Brubeck's "Time Out". To think that this was recorded in 1959! The other SACD is a more recent addition to my set, and that is the Getz / Gilberto disc with (amongst others) the Girl from Ipanema on it.
Both the SACDs you mention I have thought about getting but not pulled the trigger on.
Thing about "jazz" is it not only covers a multitude of sins but fuses snd influences other genres, hence why I don't like labels and just decide whether or not I like a piece of music regardless of pigeonhole. As I stated I mostly prefer jazz infused with "popular", "world" and "classical" but each on its own merit.
 

HenryHonda

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Tears for Fears - Tears Roll Down (Greatest Hits 89-92) - SACD, 2020 - Universal 5389907 - manufactured in Japan

Just took delivery of this today (from Germany) - and I have to say I'm impressed.

I have the original vinyl of 'Songs from the Big Chair' (1985), the Blu-ray Audio disc (2014) of the same, and the original 1992 version of 'Tears Roll Down. IMHO, none of them are as good as this new disc.

Universal Music in Hong Kong has had this album newly remixed and, unlike some commentators on other forums (some saying it's 'bright'), I must say I personally really like it. The dynamic range sounds good (though I haven't measured it, and nothing on 'Loudness War' database yet), detailing is good, and the width and depth of the soundstage is great.

OK, as always, this is with my ears, in my system, in my listening room - but I'm very pleased with my purchase :D

However, being a retired old f**t, I must say that I'm not impressed by the two bonus 'club mixes' - of 'Shout' and 'Everybody Wants to Rule the World' o_O
 

golden phoenix

Distinguished Member
Tears for Fears - Tears Roll Down (Greatest Hits 89-92) - SACD, 2020 - Universal 5389907 - manufactured in Japan

Just took delivery of this today (from Germany) - and I have to say I'm impressed.

I have the original vinyl of 'Songs from the Big Chair' (1985), the Blu-ray Audio disc (2014) of the same, and the original 1992 version of 'Tears Roll Down. IMHO, none of them are as good as this new disc.

Universal Music in Hong Kong has had this album newly remixed and, unlike some commentators on other forums (some saying it's 'bright'), I must say I personally really like it. The dynamic range sounds good (though I haven't measured it, and nothing on 'Loudness War' database yet), detailing is good, and the width and depth of the soundstage is great.

OK, as always, this is with my ears, in my system, in my listening room - but I'm very pleased with my purchase :D

However, being a retired old f**t, I must say that I'm not impressed by the two bonus 'club mixes' - of 'Shout' and 'Everybody Wants to Rule the World' o_O
How much did you pay do you have links, is this amazon germany. Love tears for fears
 

gibbsy

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HenryHonda

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How much did you pay do you have links, is this amazon germany. Love tears for fears
Well, when I ordered it, Amazon UK had it at well over £57 on pre-order :eek: - so I went to trusty Discogs and ordered it from there for €49.80 delivered. It arrived this morning but, checking on Amazon UK this morning, it's now there at £39.61+£1.26 delivery :(

Sorry, this **** phone has stopped pasting links, but a search on Amazon UK should find it...
 

HenryHonda

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HenryHonda

Active Member
Yes, also two sealed mint Steely Dan (Gaucho, Aja) delivered quickly from him when I first got my DCD-2500NE :smashin:

Looking at the stickers on the shrink wrap, he appears to be sourcing them from Seiveking sound. Unless he works for them...
 

SeeMoreDigital

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HenryHonda

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gibbsy

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He's a 'Discogger'....;)
Andraes had a copy of Fairport Convention Leigh and Lief SACD. Not any more it's on it's way to Wales. Costing me money on a Saturday night. Get thee behind me Henry.:lesson:
 

HenryHonda

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Andraes had a copy of Fairport Convention Leigh and Lief SACD. Not any more it's on it's way to Wales. Costing me money on a Saturday night. Get thee behind me Henry.:lesson:
There you go....:D

Now, who was it who recommended Discogs to me when I first got my DCD-2500NE...
:rolleyes:;)
 

gibbsy

Moderator
There you go....:D

Now, who was it who recommended Discogs to me when I first got my DCD-2500NE...
:rolleyes:;)
My SACD of Fairport Convention Liege and Lief has arrived from Andreas. Will give it a spin later today.
 

HenryHonda

Active Member
My SACD of Fairport Convention Liege and Lief has arrived from Andreas. Will give it a spin later today.
:) Enjoy

I've never checked their music out - maybe have a look on Tidal... However, I have motored through Cropredy (FC annual festival) a number of times on a canal boat ;)
 

gibbsy

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:) Enjoy

I've never checked their music out - maybe have a look on Tidal... However, I have motored through Cropredy (FC annual festival) a number of times on a canal boat ;)
The only brush I've had with FC is the Thea Gilmore album Don't Stop Singing where she puts music to the words of the late Sandy Denny after she was approached by Denny's family. Well worth a listen.
 

mij

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I am sitting here listening to "Who Knows Where The Time goes" when I clicked on this thread :)
 

JUS

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So not SACd or DVDA but BR-A. I’ve gone a bit nuts recently and bought the 50th anniversary boxes of the Beatles sergeant Peppers, White Album and Abbey Road. Very much enjoying them, especially the white album.
 

brian s

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So not SACd or DVDA but BR-A. I’ve gone a bit nuts recently and bought the 50th anniversary boxes of the Beatles sergeant Peppers, White Album and Abbey Road. Very much enjoying them, especially the white album.
Maybe the thread title could be amended to include Blu Ray Audio. I have a few myself and love the format. I wish I could get more of my favourite albums this way.

Bri
 

golden phoenix

Distinguished Member
Maybe the thread title could be amended to include Blu Ray Audio. I have a few myself and love the format. I wish I could get more of my favourite albums this way.

Bri
I agree i mean its all "hi Res" - i have access to DVD A, Bluray, SACD , flac, wav all the usual suspects...more recently i have all the high res beatles releases, sgt pepper, abbey road, white album..not sacd but all hi res and sound fantastic. just bought the tears for fears sacd of tears roll down aswell.
 

JUS

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Yes good idea Bri. Gets my vote.

I'm going to get ceiling speakers installed soon. Not sure about the others but the Abbey Road disc is Atmos and a nice selection building up on Tidal now so want to make the most of them.
 

sebbykin

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My new favourite BD.


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Virtually perfect
 

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