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SACD/DVD-A recommended discs?

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  1. SanPedro

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    Having just got my 1st multichannel music player, can anyone recommend any discs that really show off the quality of SACD/DVD-A

    I've just bought the War of the Worlds disc recently (which sounds winderful to my ears), and was considering Dark Side of the Moon as another must have.

    Tastes are mainly rock - from 60s: Beatles, through the 70's: Zep, Black Sabbath, Genesis, Floyd, Jethro Tull, Bowie, Roxy Music, Fleetwood Mac, 80's: U2, Simple Minds, Van Halen, Guns & Roses 90s+: Green Day, White Stripes, (U2 again), Kaiser Chiefs, Velvet Revolver etc...

    I'm looking for discs that are a real difference/improvement on their original recording.

    Any suggestions welcome... And if you could list the best places to get them from as well... Thanks

    Chris
     
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    Dark Side Of The Moon is indeed another must-have.

    Judging by your tastes in rock music, I can highly recommend DVD-A's by Porcupine Tree. 2003's 'In Absentia' won an award for its multichannel mix, and many would argue that the more atmospheric 'Deadwing' (2005) is as good if-not better.

    Emerson Lake & Palmer's 'Brain Salad Surgery' is also an excellent DVD-A. I have a number of other DVD-A's / SACDs, but I would say Dark Side.. is the best SACD I have, and the 2 Porcupine Tree DVD-A's the best DVD-A's - both in terms of sound quality and music. So IMHO those are the best ones to start with, setting the standard very high :D

    Best price for DSOTM I've found is:
    http://www.101cd.com/Music/info.asp?id=807285&dept=

    Best price for the PT DVD-A's I've found is:
    http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=...title&searchstring=porcupine+tree&page=search

    www.play.com are usually a pretty good bet for both formats :smashin:
     
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    agreen on In absentia m/c mix ... although the bass is a tad thin for me / on my system

    DVD-Audio
    The Flaming Lips Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (dizzying multichannel mix :) )
    Blue Man Group Audio (work out your subwoofer)
    Queen A Night at the Opera
    Queen The Game
    then the "standards" Fleetwood Mac Rumours, Eagles Hotel California

    Apparently Queensryche's Empire is a great DVD-Audio too but it won't play on my player at all :(


    SACD
    Roxy Music Avalon
    Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon (Wish You Were Here is due.. next month?)
    Dire Straits Brothers in Arms
    Joe Satriani Strange Beautiful Music
     
  4. SanPedro

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    Some excellent choices there - think I'll have a pop at some of the standards and maybe the Blue Man Group (are they the ones on the Intel Ads?). Be nice to give my Servo 15 a bit of a run out :devil:
     
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    I'm sure I remember someone saying that there's an excellent Rory Gallagher one out as well.
     
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    Chris,

    YES.. they are the guys on the intel ads.

    ooh.. i get chills thinking about TV Song* through a Servo15

    their latest The Complex is also out on DVD-Audio - it's more rocking than Audio but less of an aural feast to me at least.

    The Complex Rock Tour DVD is awesome and should give the Servo15 an indecent workout

    * track 3
     
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    Chris

    Based on your tastes....

    SACD

    All the Stones' Decca/Abkco albums
    The Dylan Hybrids
    DSOTM
    Super Furry Animals - Love Craft
    David Bowie - Ziggy, Lets Dance
    Roger Waters - The Wall Live in Berlin, In The Flesh
    Peter Gabriel - So
    Steely Dan - Gaucho
    Roxy Music - Best of
    Deep Purple - Machine Head
    George Harrison - Live in Japan
    Bryan Ferry - Frantic
    John Hiatt - Bring the Family
    Elton John - GYBR, Captain Fantastic


    DVD-A

    Jeff Trott - Dig Up The Astroturf
    Porcupine Tree - Deadwing, In Abstentia
    Neil Young - Harvest
    Yes - Fragile
    Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
    Frank Zappa - Halloween
    Billy Cobham - Spectrum
    Philip Glass - Koyaanisqatsi
    Robert Cray - Time Will Tell
     
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    I've only got one DVD-A disc and that's Queen A Night At The Opera. What's the feeling about the differences between SACD and DVD-A, is one generally better than the other format ?
     
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    Depends entirely on the disc
     
  10. SanPedro

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    My question though is...

    What does the 5 channel mix add to some of the discs mentioned? The War of the Worlds disc sounds fantastic with excellent use of the 3D sound stage. However it does show up some of the deficiencies of my system a lot more than any movie does. The centre and surround speakers are definitely the weak points - mainly as they are not really full sized speakers and the mid range sounds a bit thin at times. Burtons voice doesn't have the resonance I think it should have. And some of the effects sound a little bit 2D and obvious. But overall it's a more enjoyable experience than the regular CD.

    Oh well... more things to save up for I guess :D
     
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    DVD-A....try any of the Steely Dan offerings on that format if you want to try just about the best from DVD-A.

    Superb sound and attention to detail even if the music doesnt suit all tastes.
     
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    I'lls econd that.. Everything Must Go is awesome

    Chris,

    I remember reading somewhere Peter Gabriel (Up SACD is the only one in multichannel) thinks the additional number of channels allows him to place instruments as he hears them while composing instead of having to compress everything into two channels.

    Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree) spoke to S&V Magazine recently too about mixing in multichannel
     
  13. SanPedro

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    Trying to buy SACD or DVD-A on the high street is a complete nonesense.
    Went into my local high street store in Lancs and asked how many titles they had... "Err don't know, but they are all in with the A-Z stuff".

    Oh just great... so I have to wade through all 3000 titles to see what you have. No Thanks.

    maybe have better luck in Manchester HMV. Guess what... exactly the same scenario :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

    In the end I picked up the Rory Galagher retospective.

    an its fabulous - especially some of the live cuts. Bullfrog Blues is rockin my house at the moment.

    John... I'd highly recommend it.

    I might have actually seen Rory play once. i went to see John Coghlans Diesel band in Burnley about 1988 and Rory was supposed to be playing with John. Trouble was I had no idea what Rory looked like at that time :D . I think the diesel band was a fairly fluid mixture of band members.

    Good gig all the same
     
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    Sorry Alex, but I thought the gaucho dvda was crap!

    "everything must go" is supposed to be good though.

    DT
     
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    But the real mccoy is the 200 gram quiex vinyl issue - luuuuuuurvely :cool:
     
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    Gaucho on SACD is not too bad apart from the flying sax's :eek: The stereo layer is very good if you don't like the multi-channel mix :thumbsup:
     
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    I've got well over 100 albums in DVD-A, DTS and SACD format and, as to which format is best, must agree heartily with the earlier poster who said it depends on the disc. Apart from the differences in sound quality and resolution, the most dramatic impression is how staggeringly different the quality of the 5.1 mixes is. As the Multichannel SACD blurb you get with every disc says: “Some producers will use the added channels to faithfully reproduce the precise acoustic signature of the performance space. Others will realize new creative possibilities, immersing the listener in a 360-degree field of sound.” They’re not kidding. The first disc I put on when I’d set things up (two years ago) was The Doors’ “LA Woman” (DVD-A), and Bruce Botnick’s 5.1 surround mix is so lazy and uninvolving that I sunk into a deep gloom over all the money I had just wasted on equipment, only to be rescued by the revelations of “A Night At The Opera”, “Dark Side Of The Moon” and “Walking With The King”.

    Since then it has been one long joyfest. I don't have time to go into detail on many releases here, and basically agree with the previous suggestions (but why are people recommending the mind-numbing tedium of 'Avalon' if you like rock?), so here are 15 zingers they've missed. I've stuck to rock, though some of the best-sounding discs come from elsewhere. For example, the 5.1 DVD-A of Britney Spears' 'In The Zone' is an absolute materpiece - albeit with almost no potential buyers (I would have thought) - but I don't see you shelling out for that.

    DVD-A
    Metallica - The Black Album
    The Doobie Brothers - The Captain & Me
    Chicago - Chicago V (trust me, incredible)
    Bonnie Raitt - Nick Of Time
    Foreigner - IV
    Beck - Sea Change
    Led Zeppelin - How The West was Won

    SACD
    Derek And The Dominos - Layla
    Various - Ultimate Mancini (unbelievable sound)
    Blue Oyster Cult - Agents Of Fortune
    The Allman Brothers - Eat A Peach
    Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
    Toto - IV (make sure it's the latest 5.1 version)
    Nick Drake - A Treasury
    Jeff Beck - Blow By Blow

    That should do you for starters. On some of these the sound is so good it will wow people who don't even like the artists. In demo-ing my system to friends, I've found that - alongside DSOTM and Ultimate Mancini - the discs that most blow people away are 'Chicago V' and 'Carpenters Singles 1969-1981', and I don't know anyone who would voluntarily listen to either of those under normal circumstances.

    The (non)release of most new albums in these formats is an unmitigated disaster, and the catalogue releases heavily skewed towards classic rock, but there are also some great discs if you like soul, like Earth Wind & Fire's 'That's The Way Of The World: Live In 75", The Ohio Players' 'Honey' and The O'Jays 'Ship Ahoy' - based on a quadraphonic mix done in 73 by Gamble & Huff. Dance music is poorly represented but, if you like classical or country music, you're spoilt for choice.
     
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    Hi

    I can't believe no one has mentioned the DVD release of Simple Minds New Gold Dream. The remix 5.1 DTS sound is just awsome & it also features tracks that wheren't on the original album.

    Regards

    Gary
     
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    Cabstar

    I should get this. I did, however, get the re-mastered CD at HMV for £1.99 :eek:

    It has been the only thing I bought at HMV in years as I buy everything from t'internet now
     
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    Can anyone recommend me some great surround sound SACD's or DVD-Audio discs to play on my new system.

    Ideally they should be surround sound discs of either SACD or DVD-Audio.

    My tastes are mainstream pop, rock and a little soft melodic mellow stuff too.

    I only have two surround sound discs so far...

    ROXY MUSIC - AVALON (Surround Sound SACD)
    DURAN DURAN - ASTRONAUT (Surround Sound DUAL DISC)

    Can anyone recommend me some others great ones? Thanks.

    :thumbsup:
     
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    In terms of surround-sound SACD, Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side Of The Moon' is still the benchmark disc IMO. Definitely try to get hold of that. I can also highly recommend Dire Straits 'Brothers In Arms' and Peter Gabriel 'Up' on SACD. Both excellent in terms of music and sound quality.

    I would highly recommend Porcupine Tree 'In Absentia' on DVD-Audio. An award-winning DVD-A mix. If you've never heard/heard of them, Porcupine Tree are difficult to pigeon-hole as they are so diverse. But they tend to combine heavy/acoustic rock, intelligent lyrics and superb multi-layered vocal harmonies.

    If you like that, you could then move on to Porcupine Tree's more recent 'Deadwing' album on DVD-A which is a bit darker (possibly) than In Absentia, but equally brilliant if not better :clap:
     
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    Thanks! I'll give them all a try.

    Any others?
     
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    Just note the Stones SACDs are going OOP so get 'em while you can

    Cheers


    Martin
     
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    ..as are the Dylan SACDs :mad:
     
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    will say if you wanna listen to DVD-A or SACD, you really want some good quality speakers to make the most of the formats......especially good treble control.....
    also helps to use normal bookshelfs as rears instead of bipolars......

    i have a number of both formats, most already mentioned.....however ones i dont think i've seen that i enjoy are....

    DVD-A
    REM's Automatic for the People.......very nicely remixed in to 5.1, subtle on some tracks, more obvious on others....but regardless you feel very nicely placed if you set up your system carefully....

    Korngolds Robin Hood.....not sure if its in your sphere of genre enjoyment...heh, but its a damn good disc......very good, very long of course, its the same length as the movie...lol......

    The Crystal Method: Legion of Boom......again might not be your sort of genre, but is a very good example of using the surround mixing available with higher quality sound..

    SACD

    Sadly i dont have so many SACD discs as i do DVD-A having only had a SACD capable player for a half year whereas DVD-A i could play in my computers for the last couple years...lol.....none of what i have would probably fit what your looking for....

    If you check Amazon, its a bit randomly listed, but they have quite a large number of discs in their list, however a lot have 2 week waits to get them......both SACD and DVD-A......
     
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    You have Roxy Music Avalon on SACD? How good does it sound? According to a hifi mag I have, this is taken from a DAT copy of the analog master tapes.

    Michael Orme. Rhyl. UK.
     
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    It sounds AWESOME! :smashin:
     
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    DVD-A that I have found are quite stunning in stereo form :

    Fleetwood MAC : Rumours
    Fleetwood MAC : Say You Will
    Joni Mitchell : Both Sides Now
    David Gray : A New Day at Midnight
    Paul Simon : Youre the One
    George Benson : Breezin

    5.1 pah !!

    PS One disc DVD-V wise that is worth buying is Dave Gilmours : Meltdown Concert, lets you hear what is possible from the DVD-V format – has a stunning 24 Bit – 48 Khz Stereo PCM track, makes you wonder why they bothered with DVD-A. Dualdisc etc.
     
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    I often bought a HiFi magazine called,:HIFI WORLD. Has any one seen any thing of it? I have not seen it on sale in a shop for a long time.
    Michael Orme. Rhyl UK.
     
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    WHS stock it
     

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