Running in a plasma, is it a urban myth.

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  1. smjxm09

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    Most people here seem to think that a plasma should be run in for the first 200 hours on a low contrast and brightness setting yet I have yet to read this in any user manuals. If this is a good idea and might prevent warranty claims and unhappy customers why don’t manufactures recommend the 200 hour rule, surely the manufacturer knows best? It would seem that only people reading these forums would contemplate running in a plasma while Joe Public just set the picture up to their taste on day one with no compromises.
     
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    If you'd done a search on here, you'd have answered your own question.

    The official line from the manufacturers is, it doesn't happen. But then, do you think they would admit it? Sales would be massacred.

    It does still happen, albeit more and more rarely. Do a search for "screen burn".

    Either way, only a mug would refuse to take the advice to run in, IMO.
     
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    I've still pretty much got my Pio 436XDE on run in settings nearly a year after i bought it, it gets image retention like you woulnd't believe.
    My 360 gets used on the Game setting, The Godfather has wrecked it, the still image in the top left hand corner is still there some 9 weeks after i've stopped playing it.
     
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    I don't doubt the perils of screen burn and retention but the question is does a 200 hour run in help prevent it when the manufactures don't seem to support this view? As in the previous post 200 hours has done nothing to prevent retention on his Pioneer.
     
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    9 weeks :eek:
     
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    I personally think the run-in time is nearer 1000 hours; this comes from tweaking my Hitachi with a setup disc fairly often, but that's a different subject.

    The Pio 436 is probably the worst of the bunch for screenburn lately and is one set I wouldn't touch with a bargepole (from reading this forum regularly).
    Mostly it's not a problem nowadays, but for Pio to release that screen, well they did themselves a big disservice, IMO.
    Cost cutting springs to mind.
     
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    Just dont leave it on "dynamic" or have your contrast etc set at stupid high levels
     
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    There are many posts on these forums to say that's not true mate :thumbsdow
     
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    Also isn't there a white paper PDF released by Panasonic where they say something along the lines of "videophiles" suggest running in for a period of 1000 hours? Almost sure I have read this, but forgive me for not linking to it right now.

    It's almost like they are cleverly telling you to do this without taking direct credit for the advice.

    In any case my view was: what harm can it do? Better safe than sorry. As it happens the run in settings I used were not a million miles away from my eventual settings after using a calibration DVD.
     
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    panasonic us website mentions about run in ,but only for the first 100hrs.They recommend to keep brightness and contrast settings below 50% for the run in period.its in the faq section on plasma tvs they have mentioned this.
     
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    100-200 hrs is what the Panasonic Panel Engineer who visited my residence mentioned.
     
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    I've just had Prestige Audio fit me a stunning setup. When I asked about running in my Panny PX600, the guy said no, you just watch as normal. I have the settings on contrast 70%, all the others on 50%, colour on Dynamic (this is what the install guy recommended). I believe he new what he was on about:thumbsup:
     
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    Does it not hurt your eyes with contrast at 75% and dynamic mode?

    With those sort sof settings I find the colours extremely unatural, but I guess it is all down to personal preference.
     
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    I know what you mean, but strangely it doesn't do my eyes in!:eek: BBC HD looks the nuts with colourful programs!:thumbsup:
    Maybe I will turn down the contrast, seems like this could be wisest thing to do for the first 100hrs or so.
     
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    Maybe he was trying to hide our purple friends before he spotted them:eek: :D
     
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    Astonishing settings, and a very unusual choice of panel for a custom install. The px600 is not immune to retention, get it turned down. We never run in plasmas as such, just use a basic setup, try the THX optimiser on any THX disc, to get the settings in the right ball park. If it can't stand normal TV watching, that's what the sale of goods act is about. If you can't watch TV, speak to your retailer.
     
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    Oh, don't know if I like the word 'Astonishing'!:eek: Why is it an unusual choice of plasma?:confused:
    Prestige Audio mainly deal with Fujitsi panels, which I didn't like the look of, also the reviews were a bit dodgy on some.
    I've had my plasma for 10 days, hope I haven't done it any damage by using dynamic colour and 70% contrast?:eek: :eek:
     
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    I'm not being funny Greytruth, but you've been advised to turn your settings down. It's commonsense advice and you seem to be ignoring it. 70% is crazy high, IMO, but then it's your money to (screen)burn :smashin:
     
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    Why did Prestige Audio tell me this doesn't matter (?), they have got a very good name for knowing about these things. Anyway, I thought screen burn only happens when you leave a still image on screen for too long?:confused:
     
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    i wish it was a urban myth! got a sky+ logo on my 5 week old pio!!!!!:mad:
    should of paid more attention to these forums!
     
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    how careful do you have to be to avoid screen burn
    after the 200 hour run in period because i really want
    to get the pioneer 427xd its just a beautiful tv and am
    concerned about getting screen burn especially
    with xbox 360 games.
     
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    On my px60 I play the xbox for as long as I want without worrying about it, any retention I have can always be dealt with by 10mins of white noise. Normal television viewing would no doubt be as effective.

    There do seem to be more reports (on these forums) of Pios suffering from screen burn rather than just retention.
     
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    I was also instructed by the salesman that plasma doesn't need to be run-in (he was genuinely surprised to hear that) and that it didn't matter if it were transported horizontally (THERE ARE NOTICES ALL OVER THE PACKAGING!)...no wonder LCDs are winning over since all you hear is about plasma is: "Oh, mine suffers from severe burn-in, this plasma technology is c*ap!!!" or "My panel broke while I was transporting it intercity for 500 miles"...it IS however very weird theat there are no cautions about need for running-in in plasma manuals...it is something that manufacturers SHOULD warn about since the symptoms resemble a malfunctioning product and anyone can return their set saying it is malfunctioning since there is ghosting or burnt-in logos on their set...I mean manufacturers are not expected to advertise running-in on packaging or spec sheets but they may find themselves with hordes of returned sets because they failed to warn customers of steps to be taken for the good of their plasmas...why are there warnings about electric shock hazard and bunch of other stuff on keeping the set working correctly but nothig on run-in? It wouldn't turn people away from plasma anyway since they'd find about it only when they opened the manual, not in the shop prior to purchase...and explaining running-in procedure in the manual would allow the service shop to say: "Well, you didn't follow the procedures from the manual, you are stuck with it now, dumba**!"
     
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    The official line is that plasmas don't burn (99% of the time it's true, but it's still not 100%)
    If you think I'm lying to you, please yourself.
    It's your telly that may get wrecked
    I've suggested you search these forums.
    What more can anyone tell you?
    You believe the pros, I believe real people :smashin:

    I refer you to post 20.

    EDIT:
    Sorry, there are some pros who wouldn't set a plasma up with 75% settings as has been shown in this thread.
     
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    Closest thing I've every seen to "from the horse's mouth":

    http://pioneerhdblog.com/?p=90

    Though the section in my manual which "provides guidance" says bugger all about running it in...
     
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    75% contrast & dynamic? That must look like Teletubbie land on every programme? ;) Not sure why you didn't go for a Fuji panel, the current ones are great.
     
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    Everyone will be pleased to know I have switched the picture to normal and turned down all the settings to 50%, happy now!!;) :thumbsup:

    So am I right in thinking I should wait until 200hrs before I can apply the THX Optimizer setup?

    Cheers
     
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    You should be ok to run the THX optimiser straightaway :smashin:

    As for being happy, well, it's only you we were worried about. I'm sure everyone would hate to hear your screen was wrecked mate.

    Anyway, does the picture seem any better now you've turned it down some?
     
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    Could you clarify 10mins of white noise, I am being very dense here.
     
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    Yes, the picture is better, more natural:thumbsup:
    Thanks again for your help, I will apply the THX optimiser.:)
     

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