Rumours of Sky HD autumn 2005 soft-launch

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  1. StooMonster

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    I hope the HD service is rolled out before 2006 as I am finding it hard to wait for HD :D
     
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    One of my dealers is expecting to have his demo SKYHD box in September. I wont say who they are just now but I can say I believe them.

    Gordon
     
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    i can tell you for certain that people will be buying hd boxes in time for xmas.
     
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    How can you be so certain?

    What do you know, that we do not?
     
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    know someone in sky.
    there only up the road to me.
    the only reason that things will screw up for sky will be thompson,who will supply the boxes as you know with distribution.
    otherwise, take my word for it,got many a thing right before !
     
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    COME ON!
    EPL in HDTV!

    Hope BBC/ITV launch HDTV intime for World Cup 2006!
     
  8. Razor

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    Great news SKY HD before xmas....Chicken n Chips happy dayz :clap: :clap: :clap:
     
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    Excellent news! Does anyone have any clue what the cost will be?
     
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    The most likely hold up is the availability of MPEG4 decoder chipsets I'd think.....My dealer also is VERY chummy with a top Skyman.

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    Mmmmm....... I might hold back getting Sky+ now
     
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    yeah i got sky + 3 months ago, so might have shot myself in the foot as realy want hd. maybe the boxes will be available to buy solo, and we could sell our sky + boxes.
     
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    Hope we get more info, I might phone Sky up to ask about it, saying I'm going to buy NTL box if they dont tell me about there HD serivces LOL!
     
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    I wonder why they haven't got Sky Movies HD and Sky One HD in the ofcom list :confused:
     
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    hehehe i held out on buying a sky+ box cos then I can say to the missus, look the price of the hd box isnt too steep, its got a recoreder in it :)

    Al
     
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    Wow! This is great news! I didn't think we'd see Sky HD until summer 2006! :thumbsup:
     
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    Don't bother - I have a "mole" inside Sky, and he hasn't been told a thing. Sky reps are usually the last to be told - it's on a "need to know" basis. If there's no product there to sell, they are not trained on it - simple as that ! :cool:
     
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    I would like to know what make the recievers are going to be, more than likely pace?

    Also how big will the PVR HDD be? Or will they release a non PVR version first?

    :)
     
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    The initial launch boxes will be made by Thomson...
     
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    SKY have only announced a domestic SKY+ variant since there is no other practical way to record HD and who is going to pay for a subscription service which turns back the clock to pre-VCR days and you have to become a slave to the TV and it's schedule:)
     
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    I've read that all models have DVR, but recording facility will be included in the SkyHD subscription price.

    Hardware to be made by Tompson, and essentially based on the DirecTV HD DVR MPEG4 Receivers, like this http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/HDDVR.dsp

    Differences:
    • Sky to use the Open platform (as per Sky+) rather than TiVo
    • 250GB hard drive has got to be definate, or larger?
    • one hour live rewind rather than thirty minutes, to maintain conistency with Sky+
    Stating the bleeding obvious differences:
    • 576i and 576p rather than 480i and 480p
    • 50Hz vertical refresh rates, rather than 60Hz

    As with DirecTV, rumours of a "Home Media Center" version to follow next year; a network centric device capable of utilising Microsoft's Windows Media Connect (or similar) to distribute video around the house and to portable media devices.

    StooMonster
     
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    I hope the fascia gets redesigned for Sky+HD - that is one ugly STB!

    Steve
     
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    Cheers for the replies.

    Why are Sky using Thompson :confused: of all people to bring out their state of the art HD service. Pace has always been the prefered choice, also panasonic make good boxes. I hope its not going to be like the Amstrad boxes of old.

    BTW that box does look very ugly :eek:

    I cant wait to see all my fav Movies in HD. Does anyone know what bitrate they will be using?
     
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    You would have thought PACE would once again be the original supplier just as they were for the normal digibox and SKY+ but perhaps their relationship with SKY has been strained recently over price cuts SKY have required and maybe PACE since they are supplying Premiere may not have had the capacity to supply SKY as well.
    Thomson are a recent SKY supplier and maybe more flexible in terms of contracts and capacity so getting the SKY+160 contract gave them the kick start to jump to a HD box with little hassle.

    One thing I do like about the DirecTV box is the digital terrestrial tuner for their HD services, damn shame our box doesn't have a DTT tuner.

    SKY will be using mpeg4 (H.264) so you would be looking at around 10mbps although maybe a little higher if a broadcaster decides to use 1080i for some content.
     
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    Starburst :hiya:

    I dont have to much faith in Thompson :rolleyes: . I wonder how long it will be before other manufacturers start producing boxes? Not that I am going to wait ;)

    10 mbps isnt to bad, shame its not around the 20mbps mark.

    I wish they would leak some info as to channels and program/movie listings.

    :D
     
  26. Dutch

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    The consensus seems to be that a 1080p24 signal looks superb at around 15 Mbps using MPEG4 AVC during Blu-ray testing, so I think a bitrate of around 10 Mbps for a 720p50 signal should look pretty good. :smashin:

    Steve
     
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    Yeah after the SKY+ 160 issues you wonder how solid the first SKY+ HD will be but then again the first SKY digibox was rock solid and in my experience the first SKY+ was also solid (both by PACE though:) ).
    I expect we won't see another source for quite a while not unless the boxes sell really well and the initial supply contract is met quickly.

    Using mpeg4 10mbps is just dandy, 20mbps is maxing out even the mpegII codec in terms of domestic delivery:)

    Artsworld and Discovery HD Theatre have broadcast licenses.
    HD1 and HD1 will broadcast from 28.2 degrees in mpeg4 and I will be shocked if they are not accessible with the SKY hardware since BSKYB is a partner of EURO1080.
    SKY Sports, SKY movies and a general entertainment channel will be the corner stone of the service along with SBO.
    So just look at what we get today and consider that SKY productions along with imported US content will be available in HD from day1.
     
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    Looks like i'll be getting rid of telewest then .
     
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    I hope we will have at least the BBC from day 1 also. We need far more HD content than endless US imports in HD. This is Britain, not another US state!
     
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    maybe it is britian but most people like some american programs.....Me and my wife and kids dont really watch anything that is British, We fail to see why we should be loyal to british crap telly!!!
     

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