RRP of PS3

tutu

Active Member
What is the UK RRP of the PlayStation 3? I've looked at the usual places (play, gamestation, game).

I have a 360, and so does my two brothers, which they share. So far I've had 2 replacements, and so has he. Yesterday I discovered that my 5 year old brother purchased 5000 points (£42.50) through marketplace and Microsoft won't refund it.

Their 360 actually has a child account. I've enabled pretty much all the protection they can have but it is very lacklustre. For example, you can stop them downloading premium content, but it doesn't say anything about stopping them purchasing points. Badly described by Microsoft. Why not add an option to stop purchasing of points seperately?. All it would need is to request a password when purchasing points!

Also they can delete game saves, and format the hard drive. So as you can see, I am starting to get a little annoyed at Microsoft. So what is the UK RRP of PS3?

Perhaps a FAQ might be in order!
 

Smak

Active Member
No official UK price yet, wait till after TGS
 

tutu

Active Member
:thumbsup: Ah ok. Thought it would have been announced by now.
 

Papua

Novice Member
I would have thought that microsoft would be on a very sticky wicket legally with regards to your brother of 5 purchasing 40 odd quids worth from microsoft. The law actually states that anyone under the age of 18 cannot legally be held to purchasing anything that is not a necessity. These are clothes / food. Purchasing of points does not come into this, so I would pursue through small claims to get the money back. Microsoft cannot improse these rules (and their rules are why people don't like them in the first place).
 

FishDUDE

Well-known Member
surly you should keep your 5 year old brother away from your 360? or at least your credit cards? as he is a minor he cannot be held responsable and neither should ms for him not being supervised. just my opinion.

also what makes you think that the ps3 will be any diff? i remember the number of faulty ps2's i had back just after launch and dreamcasts for that matter and its about the same.

I wasn't going to get a ps3 but now i've got a beter job i shall.

the est. price is £425 for the console alone (the 60 Gig version)
 

tutu

Active Member
FishDUDE said:
surly you should keep your 5 year old brother away from your 360? or at least your credit cards? as he is a minor he cannot be held responsable and neither should ms for him not being supervised.
I don't live in my parents home as I'm 27 :D Do you keep an eye on your children 24/7 even in your own home? The parental controls on the 360 are very weak to say the least, and it only takes less than 10 seconds to buy the points. It requests a password for logging into parental settings, and a selection of keys to enter the console settings. But it does not ask for anything when actually purchasing things, and that is just stupid.

The credit card is my fathers and it is associated with the xbox live account. He uses it to buy the occasional xbox live arcade game.

But I will pursue this. Does anyone know the name of the Act involved?

PS Everybody I know who has bought a 360 has had it replaced (me, my brother and 3 of my friends).
 

Miyazaki

Novice Member
The price will be ~£500, that is what most people are saying. IMO I expect a price of £499.99
 
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Deleted member 92943

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So what Play.com are offering which is a console and 3 games for £550 may change and not be the actual price
 

Mad Johnny

Novice Member
I feel it may go under the £400 mark. I know, what am I on? and I havent got a clue why it would .
 

redmarkred

Active Member
tutu said:
I don't live in my parents home as I'm 27 :D Do you keep an eye on your children 24/7 even in your own home? The parental controls on the 360 are very weak to say the least, and it only takes less than 10 seconds to buy the points. It requests a password for logging into parental settings, and a selection of keys to enter the console settings. But it does not ask for anything when actually purchasing things, and that is just stupid.

The credit card is my fathers and it is associated with the xbox live account. He uses it to buy the occasional xbox live arcade game.

But I will pursue this. Does anyone know the name of the Act involved?

PS Everybody I know who has bought a 360 has had it replaced (me, my brother and 3 of my friends).
Everybody I know with a 360 (6 including me) have had no problems. What's your point? Seems like you and your friends are very unlucky!
 

WelshBluebird

Novice Member
Games Guru said:
The price will be ~£500, that is what most people are saying. IMO I expect a price of £499.99
I havn't seen anything saying around £500. All I've seen regarding price (thats believable) is gamestation and a few other shops taking preorders for £425.

(any talk on internet forums, I'm not taking into account, as thats just speculation).
 

Tejstar

Distinguished Member
Games Guru said:
The price will be ~£500, that is what most people are saying. IMO I expect a price of £499.99
The Euro 599 price probably equates to a price less than £450, I can't see it being it anywhere above £450 though!
 

Miyazaki

Novice Member
I hope it isn't £500, but with all the functionality it is rumoured to have, I would be suprised if it went for less. I'd imagine a break even price for sony on the ps3 at launch would be about £700
 
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Deleted member 92943

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For what it's meant to do, the PS3 seems resonably priced but it's all down to whether Blue-Ray will succeed or not
 

NackNack

Banned
£430 so far, most places saying £425 on pre-orders, and Gamestation promising we won't pay more than £425 on our pre-orders.

tutu - you can password the 360 so you can't sign into Live without it.
 

tutu

Active Member
NackNack said:
£430 so far, most places saying £425 on pre-orders, and Gamestation promising we won't pay more than £425 on our pre-orders.

tutu - you can password the 360 so you can't sign into Live without it.
Thanks for the info about the price. Can't believe they are waiting this long to give us a RRP in the UK!!

The xbox live password doesn't help seeing as it's my brothers account and he needs to download things!. I suppose a good idea would more than one profile, but that would probably confuse things.
 

Tetlee

Distinguished Member
I think it'll retail at £399.99, the good old trick of leading people to believe it would be cost more, so everyone's suddenly happy with the(slightly) lower price than expected:rolleyes:
 

locky79

Novice Member
i really not sure about sony, we have to bare in mind we always get shafted and i mean ALWAYS!

look at the PSP price compared to the rest of the world.

well it would be nice if its cheap but considering sony is losing loads of money on this thing and also all the lawsuits etc etc i would expect it to be more pricey.
 

NackNack

Banned
tutu said:
Thanks for the info about the price. Can't believe they are waiting this long to give us a RRP in the UK!!

The xbox live password doesn't help seeing as it's my brothers account and he needs to download things!. I suppose a good idea would more than one profile, but that would probably confuse things.
So tell him the password too?
 

Ethan2000

Active Member
but if you add in the cost of the 360's HD DVD player that pushes the price up to £430 ish, not that much difference really is there.
 

WelshBluebird

Novice Member
BOC|Ethan2000 said:
but if you add in the cost of the 360's HD DVD player that pushes the price up to £430 ish, not that much difference really is there.
yep. If you add all the accessories to make the Xbox 360 do what the PS3 does (wifi adapter, hd-dvd drive, etc) then the 360 will be more expensive.

However, the 360 does give you the choice.

e.g. - when I get around to buying a 360 (my priority is a new PC first), I won't bother with the wifi or hd-dvd drive because I simply do not want or need them.

However, when I get a PS3 next year, I have no choice. Although it doesn't bother me too much (I'll use the wifi for the psp connectivity) to some people this a major issue.
 

Demon

Active Member
I was going to get a PS3 at launch, but looking at all the 'problems' they've had with delays etc, I am not willing to purchase something with a first generation blu-ray drive, and I am sure rev 1 hardware will be as bad as the 360 (10% drop out rate has been banded around that seems about average for first time console releases), I am going to wait until they sort the hardware out and drop the price..
 

Tejstar

Distinguished Member
WelshBluebird said:
e.g. - when I get around to buying a 360 (my priority is a new PC first), I won't bother with the wifi or hd-dvd drive because I simply do not want or need them.
Imo the hard drive is a must. Especially if you like downloading demos or plan to use it as a media centre. My biggest problem is always having to delete files to fit more stuff onto it. MS, if youre listening, we need a bigger HDD asap!
 

dsanders_sco

Novice Member
tutu said:
Thanks for the info about the price. Can't believe they are waiting this long to give us a RRP in the UK!!

The xbox live password doesn't help seeing as it's my brothers account and he needs to download things!. I suppose a good idea would more than one profile, but that would probably confuse things.
This is what pre-paid Xbox Live cards are for. This way you can enable XBox live access and there is no mechanism to buy points because there are no credit card details stored against your account.

If your father needs to buy Live Arcade games, the Microsoft points can be bough on prepay cards too.

One last thing...you're making a big assumption that PS3's live equivalent is going to be any better. If you want Xbox Live to change, why not make a suggestion to Microsoft. Phone them and ask them.

David
 

tutu

Active Member
dsanders_sco said:
This is what pre-paid Xbox Live cards are for. This way you can enable XBox live access and there is no mechanism to buy points because there are no credit card details stored against your account.

If your father needs to buy Live Arcade games, the Microsoft points can be bough on prepay cards too.

One last thing...you're making a big assumption that PS3's live equivalent is going to be any better. If you want Xbox Live to change, why not make a suggestion to Microsoft. Phone them and ask them.

David
I didn't assume anything about the PS3 at all - i'm quite aware of Sony's hype machine thank you.

You cannot remove a credit card through the Xbox live account management - interestingly enough isn't it. Most market place purchases are usually impulse buying - e.g. if you have just tried a arcade demo and then you would like to purchase it.

There are solutions to this problem I know and I am aware of them. But, Microsoft refused to refund a accidental purchase made by a minor. I have suggested ways in which to improve there child account management believe you me, but most likely it will fall on deaf ears.

The current system is poorly explained, and could do with some serious HCI improvements. For example, if you block purchasing points (it is actually referred to as blocking premium content downloads - another badly named function), you can go through the process of purchasing an item, right up to the part of actually confirming the purchase. But then the protection kicks in, it should have been done before, as I was didn't want to waste some money on my dads credit card by testing it!

I mean what kind of idiot allows child profiles to delete all save games and format the HDD? Just stupid. It makes me angry to say the least. Windows isn't much better. How can they possibly miss these issues in a) software design and b) testing!

But I bet Sony will be much, much worse.
 

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