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RPTV Vs Plasma

Discussion in 'TVs' started by Artie Fufkin, Apr 7, 2005.

  1. Artie Fufkin

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    Please do not get me wrong here - I am looking for advice based on experience. I am not trying to start a slanging "my telly is better than yours" thread, although I do want to know why you think your telly is better than a plasma. :rolleyes:

    My 12 year old CRT RPTV is on it's last legs and I am trying to decide what it's replacement should be: Plasma or DLP. I love my CRT and have not yet seen a picture which has such a cinematic quality, but I am open to advice and opinion as to which way I should go with my replacement.

    I have posted a thread on the plasma forum to see what they have to say, but I would like to hear your opinions and reasons for choosing DLP over plasma.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Van300

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    It depends on your budget and other criterias. For example, if your budget is £2k, TV needs to be 50" minimum, HD Ready and no burn-in then DLP is what most would suggest. However, if you want to hang the TV on your stud wall, it to look really sexy when switched off and you can have a budget of £4/6k then Plasma would be the suggestion. On the other hand, if you have an unlimited budget to spend then I would suggest that you seek professional home cinema specialist.

    Perhaps if you care to point state your criterias we'll be in a better position to advise.

    If however, you just want to know the general advantages and disadvantages of both then I suggest you do a search on the topic as there should be masses of info on both systems.
     
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  4. Artie Fufkin

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    Thanks Van.

    The "hang it on the wall" thing doesn't come into it for me due to the shape of my living room. In fact, one of the things which annoys me about plasma owners is the importance they put on the look of the kit while it is off!!! Don't matter to me - I want a realistic picture when turned on. The TV, whatever type, will be on a stand in a corner.

    I would be looking to spend under £2K on the display. I already have good amp/speakers.

    My viewing is split 50/50 betwen DVD and freeview. I do not and will not have Sky [although HD is mighty tempting].
     
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    From your info I would certainly suggest DLP for you.

    I am not tempted by Sky HD at all because I believe that rubbish programs are still going to be regardless of the improvement in picture quality. The subsription to Sky could be used more effectively to enlarging one's dvd collection. I'm waiting for HD DVD/Blu-Ray movies....ohhh yessss.

    However, I will not be replacing my existing dvd collection with high def ones as I feel the improvement will not really be justified. The quality of a good dvd presently can be so vibrant, with the right equipment, that buying a HD version would not enable to enjoy it that much more given the extra outlay, IMO.
     
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    I would definately audition a few DLP sets before buying anything. I was originally looking at plasma screens but was seduced by DLP after seeing some at the hammersmith show with some HD material.

    I use Freeview as I agree with your comments about Sky! My set is only for TV viewing as I already have a 5.1 and projector setup. My Nokia box is connected to a TiVo which has a 160Gb drive so all recording can be done on best quality.... but this is not good enough on a 45" screen in my opinion. The Sagem D45, to me and a few others exhibits a very nasty banding/solarisation effect when panning, especially on skin tones. I've just been experimenting with a PC based DVB card (Hauppauge DE2000) which records the MPEG-2 stream directly. It's much better quality than TiVo as it records in true widescreen with a PC connected via VGA.

    Right now, I will be returning the Sagem to John Lewis for a refund. I will probably consider plasma again but wait a month or two for the new models, the new Viera looks a good option. But I will definately be looking at HD capable models in case Sky HD content is good!
     
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    I agree with Van about not needing to replace the DVD's with high def apart from older DVD's some of the early ones have appalling quality by today's standards.
    I've been trying to convince people of the better quality you get with freeview digital compared with sky & telewest apart from football & rugby when it gets jerky, then i switch anolougue useing the built in TV tuner ( i'm not sure if its down to the PC or freeview digital)
    The two best DLP sets IMO at the moment is the Optoma RD50 it cannot play region one DVD's unless you use a PC & then the picture quality with a DVI cable is superlative. The other set would be the Samsung 50 L7 , i havent seen it myself so i am basing my opinion on magazine reviews & posts in this forum.
     
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    One of these DLP vs Plasma thread always pops up ever month or so. DLP has a more natural picture in comparason to plasma screens. But in the end its al down to persoanl choice. Get out there and demo, its the only way. Also as I have said before this question has been asked many times. Search through the threads for more info. :)
     
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    The one thing which really puts me off rear projection in general is the incredibly narrow viewing angle in the vertical plane. With some screens, raising or lowering your head by only a couple of inches is enough to make a quite perceptible difference to the brightness of the picture.

    As far as DLP rear projection in particular is concerned, there's also the question of whether or not you are susceptible to DLP rainbows.
     
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    A good buy at the moment would be the Sagem HD50 , they are no longer making it but IMO has a better picture quality than some of the newer sets & it's been heavily discounted in the last couple of months.
    I don't know about the vertical viewing angles of the other makes of DLP sets as i've only seen them in Comets where they are at eye level but the RD50 has quiet a good vertical viewing angle, the picture standing only 2 feet away still looks good you only lose some brightness unlike a LCD moniter where it all gets washed out colours.

    Whatever else you do make sure you get a good demo before you buy
    & make sure you check out the skin tones as they can be a problem with some makes of DLP sets
     
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    I dont get this with the RD65
     
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    Alot of people that bought DLP's were in your position, i looked at various plasmas but the only one that really impressed was the pioneer, it has a great picture, but a hefty price to match, the rest in my opinion are pap!

    That was when i saw the review on the tosh DLP in what widescreen tv, it sang its praises, i then had a demo, and was suitably impressed. you cannot get more screen for your money. As for viewing angles, i dont find that a problem, i mean who watches tv standing up????
     
  13. Artie Fufkin

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    It does seem that there are many problems [and expence] involved in getting a good picture from a plasma. They're certainly not "plug and play" by all accounts.

    And I still haven't seen one set up which convinces me that plasma is better [ie a more realistic picture] than a RPTV. The narrow viewing plane doesn't seem to be an issue for me at all - I have watched my CRT RPTV for the last 10 years and have never thought of it as a problem.

    I think I'm going to give plasma a miss this time round.

    So, what should I buy? Are CRT RPTVs any good these days, or is it all DLP now?
     
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    i dont get this with my RD50 :hiya:

    unless im watching it at very acute angle from a very far distance
    the best thing to do is probably go to your nearest comet and check out the sagem and you will know what its going to be like.

    the more you wait the better the DLP sets will be coming out :)
     
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    If you go into a typical comets some of the crt sets look better than the DLP set's but feed them a good signal or source & you will see the difference.
    Try & get a good demo somewhere like sound & vision should have them set up right.
    If you have a demo in Comets try & get them to use a decent DVD player via component & if the pictures bad try adjusting it with the remote.
     
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    I was also undecided until I saw the new SD Panasonic Pv50 plasma in a local retailer with both Sky and DVD and the contrast seemed better than any DLP set I've seen and the viewing angle was fine off axis unlike DLP sets I've seen. The 42" can be got for £1700 which is DLP territory. Unfortunately due to cost I want a screen that will suit my needs for the next few (4+) year and therefore have decided to wait for the Hd version due in May. Now all I've got to do is work out how to afford one :rolleyes:
    I wasn't going to mention the looks thing but come on folks its a lot easier justifying the expense to the other half given how good a thin panel looks as opposed to the bulkier DLP sets.
    Albeit its the viewing angle issue that my wife has issues with regards DLP.
    Would like a look at the newer formats such as IDLA but I fear the wait will be too long and the price too high
     
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    Shocking post :eek: :D

    Each to their own. I dont think you will ever appreciate a good DLP in the shop. A display has to be tuned individualy to each piece of equipment, this isnt really fesable in a store, espedcially with store lighting conditions.

    There was only 1 plasma that left me gob smacked and it was a 81' Poineer (unknow stupidly high resolution). It was showing footage from a high resloution camcorder. This was the first time I had ever seen HD footage. I know it wasnt 720p, I dont evan know if was 1080i. Can camcorders shoot higher resolutions than 1080i? Anyway the picture and size was to die for.

    I enquired about the display and was told that it wouldnt be availible for retail for a while and when it is, it wont be in the UK. Cost was expected to be around £15,000+. That ended that dream :(

    Anyway what ever you end up with I hope your happy :thumbsup:
     
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    No doubt that Plasmas look better apart from maybe the Sammy 50L7 & they do fit into smaller rooms better but if you have decent sized front speakers a 50" DLP fit's just fine & i'd prefer the set to be more or less in line with the speakers than hung on a wall. There are no horizontal viewing angle issues & if you stand up & walk towards the set u only lose a bit of brightness, you do not get washed out colour like an LCD monitor when u get to close.
    I can understand how you can go into a store like Comet's & Curry's & come away thinking Plasma is better than DLP they are not known for giving good demo's.
    Before buying my DLP i checked out the Sagem HD50 with DVD in Comets & i also visited Sound & Vision where i saw some expensive Plasma's with DVD , i prefered the cheaper DLP for picture quality.
    Whatever you buy it's wise to wait for a HD version :)
     
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    I don't like the brightness from dlp's, it always seems to have a darker glow on it, and it reflects too much, the contrast on the new panasonic plasma's (to my eyes) looked better. The samsung that was showing high def did look VERY natural though, without any mess in the picture (like cheaper plasma's really suffer from...)
     
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    Could you explain a bit more as I havent seen the effect you are describing. :smashin:
     

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