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Discussion in 'AV Pre-Amp/Processors & Power Amps' started by jhjerpe, Apr 22, 2003.

  1. jhjerpe

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    I could possibly be looking at replacing my 2011 with Rotel separates in order to provide me with a greater deal of upgrade flexibility in the future and to improve the stereo performance of my system (movie sound improvements welcome as well!). I thought I would sell the 2011 now as there still seems to be demand in the market.

    My current thoughts are along the lines of a 1066 with a RMB1075. The 1075 would drive the surround sound speakers and the centre channel. What amp would people recommend to dive the front L&Rs?

    Any recommendations welcome.
     
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    Any one know the current Rotel product range? Looking at the web site it looks like either the RB1050 or RB1070.

    Orginally I was thinking about keeping the 2011 as a processor only but after reading some of the threads on the 1066 I am very tempted to to go the full hog.
     
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    I rekon you wait for the RSP-1098 before deciding on the 1066.
    You can of course start off with the power amps first.
     
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    Just be aware the 1066 makes a loud pop and is sent to each speaker when switching inputs.
     
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    mine doesn't, not at all.

    incidentally, I've got the rotel rb-991, which is an earlier version of the rb-1080 and it's great. perhaps you can find one second hand?

    dave
     
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    Nathan ... some 1066 make a quite pop noise ... if you end with one that does just moan to your supplier and they will swap it for you.

    The 1050, 1070 and 1080 all have (virtually) identical gain to the 1075 (and 1095) from what I understand.

    Or do what we do ... 1075 and 985 to bi-amp the front 3 :)

    Vikki
     
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    Has the 1075 & 985 Mk II got the same input specifications?

    I did mention to my dealer about a year ago reg. similar amps but with slightly different gain (as in that post recently)
     
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    It looks like it's going to be a RB-1070 for the fronts and a RMB 1075 for the rest combined with the 1066. I might end up doing it gradually starting with the RB-1070, followed by the 1075 then the 1066, really depends on cash flow and how much I can get for the 2011.

    2nd Question - will driving the fronts with a 1070 improve stereo sound when used with the 2011? Or should I keep the money in the bank earning interest until I can afford the lot?
     
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    Sorry, another question rather than answering one:

    I know I'm not supposed to read W Hi Fi, but too late: One of the systems included uses the 1066 & 1075, and it states the 1075 will provide 5 channels of 120W.

    Is the mag wrong, or do you just suggest an extra power amp for better performance?

    Cheers
    Mike
     
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    1075 is 120W x 5.

    What speakers have you got? The 1075 will be fine with most speakers with 6-8Ohm and say 89dB sensitivity and 20W-150W, but I would look at the 1095 for speakers that are 4Ohm/low senisivity or power handling at 150W +
     
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    As the 1075 is 120w x 5 I was looking to add a 2 chanel amp to make it full 7.1.
     
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    A lot of people run 4ohm M&K and similar speakers from a 1075 with no problem. Unless you want very loud or have very difficult to drive speakers the 1075 should be sufficient for most people.

    Not sure if you'll get much difference adding the RB1070 to the Pioneer 2011 ... but its certainly not going to hurt its performance so you could add the RB1070 now to start your purchases off.

    Vikki
     
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    Ok, I'm with it now :)


    I knew I'd forgotten something. I don't have any yet. Listened to some M&K today - and am demoing some in-walls on Monday. Also thinking about Dynaudio.

    Was hoping the 1075, or the Denon A1SR, Pioneer AX10i, Harman Kardon AVR 8500 would all cope with M&K or Dyns.

    Really have no idea what I'm doing. Difficult to demo one of the above agaist another. And a TAG would push the budget a bit far.

    Anyway, this isn't my thread :)

    Mike
     
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    I use an RB 993, 3 channell version of the 991 (3 x 200w) for my front 3 and 2 RB 981s (4 x 150w I think) for my 4 surrounds (Kef TDMs). These work very well together. They were all bought second hand, £150 each for the 981s and £400 for the 993. Very good amps for the cost. The 991 and 993 do cause a slight buzzing though, although you can't hear it when its being used. I think a RA silencer would probably help if it was a problem.

    Regards Rob.
     
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    i currently run 3802 just running surround backs, and use 981 powering fronts,985mk1 driving center and surrounds,with cdm1nts front +lcr60 center+600s3 surrounds, to be honest in my opinion comparing the 3802 vs rotels the rotels are slightly better in av than (3802 on its own) the 981 is just a tad better in sterio over the 3802,

    i would suggest you have a demo of 2011 vs say 1075+1066 or 2011+1075 and see if you get a big enough improvement first and if so you can always go the 2nd hand exdem as regards powers +processer i have not heard the 2011 so have no idea what its sound quality is like compared to other kit
     

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