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    1. LeoWyatt

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      Hi all,

      I'm likely to be moving just after Christmas and would like some advice on if I'm putting stuff in the correct place or where to put stuff.

      The pictures (room1-3) are of the current setup and I plan to keep both of our sofas in the same place.

      I've included what the layout I think should look like but not included any speaker setup because I just don't think I can do 5.1 because the door would affect the rear right speaker and putting on the wall right behind the sofa would be too close.

      I'm thinking a soundbar would be the best thing to buy though as I won't be able to get a decent central position for a good listening experience.

      I'll be mounting the TV on the chimney above the fireplace though I think the AV rack is far too big to fit in that space as it'll stick out too far. I could shelf up the fireplace and put stuff in there but would need to get some power sockets fitted inside which has been done in the other room but sadly not this one. Though I suppose I could move the rack right next to the chimney instead of putting it all the way in the corner.
       

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      You don’t mention your existing kit, or if you intend to buy new.

      I am not a Sound Bar fan.....

      If sticking to fireplace mounting, I think you could look to use 5.1 with L, R and Rs & Ls speakers as shown.... IMG_0051.JPG .

      The Centre would be the problem. Sub could go back left position.

      The rightmost settee will have a poor experience for Sound and vision though, so reserve that for family members who don’t care.
       
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      Monitor Audio speakers are configurable in dipole and bipole arrangement, very useful flexibility for your type of setup.
       
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      Ah sorry I forgot to mention what I've got. Currently I have a very old Pioneer xbox 360 so everything that is connected at the moment is via optical cables. I want to replace it with something better but budget will play a big part as I'll be upgrading our 720p plasma at the same time.

      Why would the centre be a problem? Could that no go in the fireplace if I stuck a shelf in there?
       
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      Those would work really well with the rears or are they sides?
       
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      They can be set up as sides or rears. Bipole or dipole, pending on location / preference. The latest immersive setups would consider this diffuse approach as not as good as Direct firing speakers, for reason of directionality for “objects”. If Atmos / DTS:X may become important to you, have a think about it.

      What I like about the approach though, is that Sound is spread throughout the room, and it can provide a good surround presence. The LR speakers can be floor or bookshelf too. If the Centre speaker can go in the feature fireplace (aesthetics), it would be fine there.

      To make proper recommendations, a budget would be good.

      A 4K tv, AVR, and 5.1 Speakers soon add up. Plus sources....
       
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      Those speakers sound perfect then as they can go on the walls as per your diagram.

      I'm looking ideally at either the 55B7 or 55EZ952 for the telly so that'll be around £1.8k.

      Unfortunately that'll mean I'll only have around £500 for everything else so I don't mind doing things in stages. Not sure if they would be of any use given their age but I have an old pair of Eltax Liberty 5+ floor standing speakers which aren't being used.

      Sources will be Virgin media V6, PS4 and firestick/TV for streaming sources.
       
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      An interim AVR is my best bet for the time being. Would I be better buying a sub instead of a centre?

      I was considering the 2300W for the AVR unless the 2400 is a better shout.

      2nd hand is also a great idea.
       
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      70% of movie audio comes through the Centre, so I think that’s more important, especially if you use your floorstanders in the initial setup.
       
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      'if I'm putting stuff in the correct place'

      'I'll be mounting the TV on the chimney above the fireplace'

      'The pictures (room1-3) are of the current setup'


      Compare the height of your current TV with where you plan to mount the TV in the new room - many folk will find it uncomfortable to view so high up on the wall.

      If you have to place the TV above the fireplace I would omit a Centre Channel or Soundbar below the TV and stick with Front LR.

      You could easily start out with a 2.0 or 2.1 system - you may end up sticking with that configuration.

      Joe
       
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      Ok that makes sense. Though getting something which complements the floorstanders will be difficult I suspect.
       
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      I don’t want to put the tv in the corner it is in, in the photos.

      In our current lounge the bottom of the TV measures 1.2m up the wall so I do not think the new one will be that much further up there and we do not notice any neck strain or anything. I will be removing that lamp so the TV will not be too high up.
       
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      'I will be removing that lamp' - you lost me, which lamp? :)

      Ideally you will get to play around with the TV and Speakers before you make a final decision.

      Joe
       
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      Haha sorry. It is hidden by the wallpaper but in the first photo there is a gold wall lamp on the left hand side of the chimney.

      Yes I should get a chance to try stuff out I am just trying to get an idea of what I need to save and what is possible.

      Thank for your help
       
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      I see it now - well hidden :)

      Joe
       
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      Just to pick up on this point, and give you food for thought, I started with a 5.1 system, then went to 3.1, then 2.1, and have not missed the extra speakers much. Obviously people have different preferences, but please don't dismiss a good 2.1 setup out of hand.
       
    18. LeoWyatt

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      thanks for the advice. I'll certainly be starting out with a 2.0 I think and adding to that. I have no idea those speakers existed and they solve the placement problem perfectly.
       
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      In regards for the amp, I’d go for the 2300W

      I tested that and the 2400 and couldn’t hear a difference. There was certainly nothing the 2400 has that made it worth spending an additional £200 over the 2300
       
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      That is good to hear, I'm have been mulling over the 2300W and can currently get it for £349 which is a good price I think and the price will only come down as I won't be buying just yet.
       
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      I’d keep an eye out on Black Friday/Cyber Monday - I got mine earlier this year on offer from Peter Tyson, paid £299
       
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      Ah great I'll keep an eye out then thanks!

      Question for you since you have the 2300W what is the height of it without the wifi antennas?
       
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      Is your fire electric? If so you could easily move it tio the corner and build something round it, maybe like this though a simpler design with a heavy beam above and not much else would be to my taste.

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      That would free up the chimney area to lower the TV and have a little AV stand underneath. Somewhere to put your centre too.
       
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      The fir
      The fire is electric and it can be moved so I could put the rack I have now in the fire place but I think it is too big sadly which is why I put it in the corner or next to the chimney.
       
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      Next to the chimney for rack, with a shelf underneath TV for centre.

      Mixed views on here but my stereo speakers don't sound as good for voice as a dedicated centre and that will be most of the traffic so I think go for a centre. Budget allowing.

      There may be some on walls which suit high placement for surrounds, possibly above the door if space allows, so they can be at 90 degrees to listening position.
       
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      I'm thinking a AVR and centre to start with.

      Does the centre I am buy matter that much to match with the front floorstanders I will be using?
       

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