Finally moved from a painted Icestorm 5 wall to a cheap and cheerful blackout rollerblind. Measured, made and delivered in less than a week (usual turnaround 3 days) - company called Newton-le-Willows blinds based near Warrington (North West - will get the number later) The grey black out material was perfect IMHO - slap bang between Icestorm 5 and 6. Nice weighted metal runner on the bottom to keep the material quite flat. Simple installation - easy to do yourself (company install locally, not sure if they offer a postal service) For £160 it can't be beaten IMHO - especially since I wanted one so large. The 11.5ft width is used near enough to max with 2.35:1 aspect ratios - standard 4:3 drops to about 5.5 ft - which is the max depth that can be obtained. Will try and get some piccys posted if anyone is interested. (I'm running an AE100 (on 535 hrs and no probs - (touches desk!!)) via a HCPC.