Rolf Harris arrested (August 2013)

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  1. Azzin

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    It woulds appear the Police feel they now have something 'arrest worthy' (no charges yet).

    [Edit] - Having re-read the BBC News article, it says further allegations of sexual offences (so in addition to those he was questioned about a few months ago?).
     
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    So he had to go in and answer bail and was then arrested.
     
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    Sky say re-arrested, BBC say arrested.

    I can't remember if he was arrested before, or just questioned.
     
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    Re-arrested is correct.
    They tried to keep it quiet last time, but there's not many 80 year + Australian entertainers, who live in Berkshire I guess, so wasn't too hard to work out.
     
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    Before the charges he was British. Now he's Australian...
     
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    Actually if he was on bail then arrested again when answering that bail, he would have been Further Arrested. This would mean the same custody record and the officers would then aim to have all charges put on the same record. It starts getting confusing when a person is on bail for several custody records being dealt with by the same officer/s.
     
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    "New" allegations apparently...

    So...

    My guess would be that more people have come forward, having seen his name on TV in regards to sexual offences and now the Met (?) have interviewed them and maybe seen separate/unconnected people all giving the same account of what happened to them and decided there's far too much here to be coincidence and re-arrested him?
     
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    This guy can paint a picture and sell it easily for £25,000. I guess it would take him less than a week to do it.

    He is loaded.

    So it really does make it worth while for those women, who had anything 'romantically involved' to do with him, making up some story or other and/or exaggerating it and then going to the police. Or even reporting the truth all these years later after they've gotten over it.

    And, when the case has been won criminally, along will come the civil case to take him for some "£,£££s". It is going to cost him an absolute fortune!

    I always fancied buying one of his pictures as an investment. At the end of this case, they are going to drop in value like a stone.
     
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    What's your point?

    Are you suggesting that he is completely innocent and that the women have made their allegations up purely for money?
     
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    Personally, I think these recent claims are primarily financially motivated.
     
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    Do you mean with regards to Rolf Harris, or one/some of the other claims?

    The thing you have to understand about abusers of any description, is they are the masters of disguise.

    Only when presented with information do you then change your opinion.

    It was only my mum that refused to believe/acknowledge that my dad had abused me as a child (ostrich syndrome), but not one other person batted an eyelid when I told them.

    Also, all the stuff that was discovered after that, along with all the lies he told getting exposed, just added to it.

    I'm really glad that I revealed what he did 5 years ago, because today I think I would stand a lot less chance of being believed due to Saville, Hall, Yewtree etc.
     
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    I've got cognitive dissonance on it all.

    I can remember what it was like years ago with 'Groupies' and the like. And were they mostly under age? Most probably. Their parents didn't know what was going on and what their little girls were getting up to. Importantly, neither did the parents care. So for 'Male Celebs, Rock Stars, Rock Band Members, etc, etc.' to have sex with these kids was almost a perk of the job.

    Your groupies stories. Here. - Harmony Central

    At post No 11. above Azzin tells a personal story which is an utterly different kind of paedophilic experience. It is not the same as the Groupie stuff above and, when he tells us no one believed what he had to say about his father abusing him, then my heart goes out to him.

    So there is an explanation about my cognitive dissonance.

    I'm sure you'll understand about the underage Groupies owning their own "Bragging Rights"? Those rights are worth an awful lot of money these days aren't they?

    Edit: http://talesofagroupie*************/

    http://www.cracked.com/funny-3934-groupies/

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/rape-of-underage-groupies-a-technical-thing-shah-1-3040763
     
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    Just to be clear, I was saying that it was only my mum that refused to believe me, no one else batted an eyelid when I told them (as in they believed me before I had finished telling them kind of thing).

    Sorry for confusion, but yes I agree re groupies, but we'll have to wait and see what the actual charges are (if any) against Rolf Harris.
     
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    Why would you say that?

    History has a VERY short memory when it comes to bad things.
    We have various people in history that are now "Interesting, Exciting etc etc" because they did bad things.

    People lap up and love bad people after a certain period of time, Danger, Exciting, Wrong Doing........

    No one gives a toss about the people in history that didn't do anything much of interest and never hurt anyone.

    Anything Rolf has ever done would pale into insignificance to many from the past, who people of today collect things and are interested about.
     
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    And she is perfectly correct. We do most certainly need to change these attitudes.

    There were two sides to the attitudes.

    Groupies: The let's go out and have some exciting experiences, even sexual ones, even though we are under age. After all, they are going to be with stars and celebs.

    Well, there's an attitude that needs changing, yeah?

    But girls got to be sexually empowered when they started to take 'the pill', didn't they. So all they needed to worry about was getting an STD or being physically hurt or raped. They didn't have to worry about being raped when they were dishonouring themselves and throwing themselves sexually at these stars', did they?

    And the stars: Hey guys! These girls are throwing themselves at us! Let's pile in!

    And some of the male appetites? Well, he might be unique, but someone like Mike Tyson is reputed to have had sex with as many as 10 women in a day.

    As Eddy Shah tells it (see the Scotsman link above), "Rape is rape, there is no question about it, or it being about ‘partly the victims' fault.”

    But there is also Alison Todd's opinion (she is Director of children and family services at CHILDREN 1ST), that needs listening to as we begin to modernise our attitudes: "And while children need education and support to think about how they can keep themselves safe from the risk of sexual harm, there is a need to focus on ensuring that adults display healthy attitudes and behaviour towards children."

    We are talking about all sorts of sexual activity here and not all of it was to do with paedophiles forcing themselves on young children. These activities are often quite complex and belong to an earlier era when times were somewhat different for some of the activities concerned.
     
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    Rolf Harris used to sing about "two little boys" - what's that all about? Maybe that's the basis of what the police think they have on him? :confused:
     
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    The Artist Taxi Driver "Rolf Harris Special" makes me laugh. :laugh: and I need a laugh with the dire mess we're in we need wings today to fly high above it all. "Hairy goat legs." :laugh: oh, oh no more, no more I'm close to tears with strenuous laughter, I can't hold myself together. :laugh:

    **Rolf Harris Special** BBC Sucks O Cocks News


    Jim's, hands where all over that girl.:nono::thumbsdow When she gets the prize and starts to walk away, his hands are on her again and pulling her back. Oh please where's the sick bucket.

     
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    And then theres the bodage and beastiality implications of Tie Me Kangaroo Down!
     
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    Erm... ***?! Who on earth thinks its a good idea to rock up stark naked to serenade your gran!! That's more than a bit weird in my book!

    As for him choosing his girls with a torch, the blame can't be placed on any one individual, its just the same groupie culture that's been around for years. I don't think its ever going to change and I must admit that I now cannot decide whether investigating these celebs so many years later is actually worthwhile.
    I'm not sure we'll ever know the full stories, I'm sure there will be some lies and mistruths in there along with some embellishment and misdirection. Is it really worth digging into events that happened 10, 20, 30 years ago when similar things may be going on now that could be dealt with?
     
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    It seems you have some similar cognitive dissonance on this 'sex with celebs' stuff to my own.

    In many ways, these young girls get what they ask for - and apparently want.

    And so do the lawyers: Namely fees for the criminal cases and more fees for the civil ones.

    But I am against true paedophilia and it isn't until we've had a court case, which determines as to whether a crime has been committed or not. And in such a case, "groupie ethics", being right or wrong, don't enter into it.

    After all, lots of 'groupies' are just kids and it's up to adults to set an example and behave more responsibly towards them - not just capitulate, pile in and take advantage of them.
     
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    JUSTIN BIEBER NUDE? AAAGH! MY EYES!!!

    And in front of his gr.. an? :facepalm:

    I tell you, that guy is losing the plot. :suicide:
     
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    Rolf Harris has now been charged with 9 offences of indecent assault and 4 of making indecent images of children.
     
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    With most people, that meaning downloading peado porn but Rolf probably painted them himself while staring at the child and making those panting noises.
     

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