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Robert Whyte and Aconda Saga

Discussion in 'Televisions' started by bobones, Jan 24, 2002.

  1. bobones

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    Looks like they've clarified their websites and do indeed sell the Aconda 9281 (aka Living) for £1300. Last week the site said 9381 and I was told this was a mistake when I visited the shop.

    As far as I can tell from the Loewe site (spec comparison), the only differences between the 9281 and 9381 is the former's lack of digital picture processing and the available case colors, although some threads on this forum indicate that they are technically identical while others say the 9281 has a toshiba tube whereas the 9381 has a philips.

    I fancied an all black or a silver and black 9381 but I suppose an all silver 9281 is still a bargain at £1299, no?
     
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    Even though they are no longer valid, they are still offering the colour options though :)

    Phil
     
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    :D I spoke to Loewe technical and they assured me the only difference between the 9281 and the 9381 is the colour and finish. The 9381 has a gloss front in various colours with a black case and the 9281 has a matt colour all over in either silver, light green or light blue. All else is identical.
     
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    Yep, I picked up a Loewe brochure from John Lewis' with all their specs and, as you say, the only differences are the finish and the price.

    JL had no 9281's on display so I'm not sure if the sell that model but their 9381 was £1850.
     
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    I've just bought an Aconda 9381 from JL and they price matched it from RW in Glasgow for £1631 including delivery. This way you get great after sales service, (I'm replacing a SONY KV32 FQ75 also bought from JL cos it was crap!) and a 5 yr guarantee!

    As for the differing models, the 9281's are no way near the spec of the 9318 or the 9581. Yes the finshes are different, not metallic and the tubes are different. I spoke to a guy from Sevenoaks and Loewe (conflicting info here)and they told me that the 9281 uses a Tosh tube whereas the 9381 uses a Philips tube...far superior. The internall workings are also different with greater processing for a better picture.

    If I were you I would go for at least the 9381, reviews of the lesser Loewes have not been great - Home Entertainment Mag Jan 2002 for one and What Hi FI in the past but they all rate the 9381.

    Hope this helps you in your dilemas.

    Matt
     
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    Nowhere near the spec? You would say that having spent £300 more on a 9381.

    Looking at the 2001-2002 catalogue, the specs and options of these 2 tvs are identical apart from the finishes. Both have full digital 100 according to the brochure.

    However, the loewe website doesn't list full digital 100 as a feature of the 9281 - perhaps the specs of these have been recently downgraded? I may give Linn Products a call to get this straight once and for all.

    Anyway, the more I see the aconda, the less impressed I am. There's far too much plastic surrounding the screen for my liking and the picture quality seems soft even compared to my 10yr old 28" 4:3 tosh. I have a feeling these tvs will look dated fairly soon as the picture frame style pioneered by toshiba becomes more fashionable.
     
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    I spoke to Linn Products technical department a few weeks ago and was told that the 9281 & 9381 have exactly the same spec.
    I asked if the tubes were different and was told no, the only difference is cosmetic.
    The same applies to the Vitros.
     
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    I think this debate re: the Aconda 9281 and 9381 is a case of who do you believe, the salesman who can gain £300 extra or Loewe(Linn) technical support. I have emailed Loewe Head office in Germany for an answer.
     
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    OY that’s my name. :D

    Regards, Tel :)
     
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    I've been in touch with Loewe support in Glasgow (Linn).

    The story I have is this. 9381s have a Philips tube. 9281s have a Philips tube. There is no difference in the tech spec.

    However, there was a batch of 9281s built with Toshiba tubes. These were Light Siliver models with Article No. 60401 B 72. The current 9281 models should have Article No. 60401 B 62.

    Linn only have 60401 B 62 in stock.

    Retailers with old stock may have some 60401 B 72 models.
     
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    What is the url?
     
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    >The story I have is this. 9381s have a Philips tube. 9281s have
    >a Philips tube. There is no difference in the tech spec.

    Thats good!! :)

    >However, there was a batch of 9281s built with Toshiba tubes.

    For sure, because mine has a Toshiba tube. I have seen its chassis open. There is a big sticker saying Toshiba, so no chance for errors or misunderstandings.

    >These were Light Siliver models with Article No. 60401 B 72. The
    >current 9281 models should have Article No. 60401 B 62.

    No true, mine is Light Blue with No 60401 B 62. And was bought from the Linn shop in London one month ago!!!
    I am more than sure about the tube since the VGA card was installed in front of me, and the first thing I looked for was the tube maker.

    >Linn only have 60401 B 62 in stock.
    >Retailers with old stock may have some 60401 B 72 models.

    As they seem to have also. And they seem to be very confused with the TV set they sell. That is not good at all.

    Bests
     
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    I don't know about tubes and such but if you look on the Loewe.de web site the technical specs of both loewes are nearly identical but for the 8 bit digital processing(included on the 9381 spec).
     
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    I have the Loewe brochure and it shows the 9281 has 8 bit processing.
    I think the web site maybe incorrect as it seems that all Loewe TV's have the 8 bit.
    Its all "8 bit" confusing! :D
     
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    Phoned Loewe today and they confirmed that the web site is incorrect and teh 9281 Aconda and Vitros both have the 8bit Digital processing.:p
     
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    I spoke to JL in Kingston and Oxford St (to make sure) and they definitely do not stock the 9281 Model.

    So I guess there goes the good after sales service idea...
     
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    I had some more info from Loewe support (Linn) in Glasgow regarding Aconda 9281 tubes.

    The story now is, 9281 models with Article No. 60401 B 62 have Toshiba tubes and models with Article No. 60401 B 72 have Philips tubes.
     
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    Yep, youre right Ian, I spoke to Linn myself yesterday and got an e-mail confirming that 62- Tosh & 72- philips.
    If Linn say they have only got 62's in the warehouse then thats a load of old Tosh !!:D
    It would therefore appear that they have an old batch, wouldnt it? :confused:
     
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    AVgeeza, would you posting up the email...thanks
     
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    I'm considering buying one of these loewes. But which do I go for, the Aconda or Vitros, and why?

    Vitros - slightly cheaper, ability to vary degree of
    processing on one of the 3 rgb scart inputs.

    Aconda - slightly more expensive (reason for this???), don't know
    much else about this one other than its good rep and
    similar/identical(?) technology to the Vitros.

    Bit of advice from owners would be appreciated before I dive in.
     
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    Silva,
    the e-mail is on my work pc and I cannot access the account remotely. Im back in the office on monday, so I will post it then.

    Jockey,
    both sets are the same internaly so its all about cost and looks. If money is not an issue then buy the one you most like the look of. Funny thing is that the Vitros always seems to have a sharper picture than the Aconda when Ive seen them side by side in stores, hmmmmmm :confused:
     
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    Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in here. I'd advise anyone not to buy from Robert Whyte. They appear very friendly and helpful when your giving them your details for payment but after that they couldn't give a toss. Trust me I've been there. Steer well clear of Robert Whyte Ltd.
     
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    Yeah, Ive heard a few comments about RW after sale customer service, thats why I went to Audio-T to get a price match.
    Audio-T have never given me any problems.
     
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    AVgeeza,

    Which model Aconda did you get a price match on?
     
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    It was the Aconda Living (9281)
    I like the the all silver look and at £1279, thought it was a bargain too good to resist!!!
    Audio-T will do a price match on the other Acondas in the range too. :D
     
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    Silva,
    As promised, heres the e-mail from Linn Products (Loewe UK):-

    Dear Mark,

    Thank you for your email and subsequent telephone conversation today,

    Just to confirm that the Aconda 9281 with the Variant 62 has a Toshiba tube, while Variant 72 has a Phillips tube.

    With regards to the Articos/Aconda chassis, Loewe could not give a date as to when and if the Aconda will get the Articos chassis.

    I trust this is the information you require.



    Please feel free to contact me at Loewe Customer Services if I can offer any further assistance.

    Kind regards
    John Chavner.
    Loewe Customer Service.
     
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    The insides of these 2 sets(Vitros+Aconda) are identical. If there is a difference it comes down to styling and IMO the Aconda is a bit more robust. Why is the Vitros cheaper, probably because its a newer model and does not have the same track record as the Aconda. Personally I think when choosing between the 2 its a personal choice, the stylish Vitros or the retro Aconda. I went for the Aconda. Either way dive in by all means you will not be disapointed.
     

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