Right Wing News Channels

Rebecca Riot

Active Member
If they do a late night newspaper review like Sky and the BBC do it will be interesting to see who they pick for reviewers....Katy Hopkins?, Lawrence Fox?, Melanie Phillips?

In fairness they should also have someone from the Left but I can't see many of them wanting to be associated with brand GB News.
 
Maybe the solution would be to have certain channels allocated to certain political parties as was allegedly the case in Italy a few decades ago. Rai Uno was Christian Democrats, Rai Due was Italian Socialist Party and Rai Tre was Italian Communist Party.

As someone wrote up thread these far right propaganda channels will crash and burn. The danger however will be the resultant move further to the right by the BBC, ITV, Sky and Channel 4 in search of audience.
 

Ed R Marley

Standard Member
If they do a late night newspaper review like Sky and the BBC do it will be interesting to see who they pick for reviewers....Katy Hopkins?, Lawrence Fox?, Melanie Phillips?

In fairness they should also have someone from the Left but I can't see many of them wanting to be associated with brand GB News.
Perhaps they could find one of those "faux-lefties" like Fox News had on "Hannity and Colmes", with Colmes supposedly being the voice of the liberal but in reality was Hannity's lil' whipping boy. I can't think of anyone in the UK media who'd fit that role though. Dan Hodges perhaps?
 
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Deleted member 897717

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If they do a late night newspaper review like Sky and the BBC do it will be interesting to see who they pick for reviewers....Katy Hopkins?, Lawrence Fox?, Melanie Phillips?

In fairness they should also have someone from the Left but I can't see many of them wanting to be associated with brand GB News.


Or maybe a well known social commentator like Ronnie Pickering?
 

swingaleg

Active Member
Perhaps they could find one of those "faux-lefties" like Fox News had on "Hannity and Colmes", with Colmes supposedly being the voice of the liberal but in reality was Hannity's lil' whipping boy. I can't think of anyone in the UK media who'd fit that role though. Dan Hodges perhaps?
Dann Hodges used to be a regular on Sky's Press Preview ....... he came across as your standard right wing Conservative, not a far right loony. But it would be a sad day if he represents the Left

By the way ...... he is of course Glenda Jackson's son ..... so maybe they could get her on instead (although she is getting on a bit)
 

Ed R Marley

Standard Member
Dann Hodges used to be a regular on Sky's Press Preview ....... he came across as your standard right wing Conservative, not a far right loony. But it would be a sad day if he represents the Left

By the way ...... he is of course Glenda Jackson's son ..... so maybe they could get her on instead (although she is getting on a bit)
I'm sure Dan Hodges was Labour once though, many moons ago.

Or maybe Caroline Flint? Heard she's got nowt to do at the moment. Always good for a dig at the Corbynites 😄

I just remembered Sunny Hundal as well. He's another who's sort of hovered, well, all over the place.
 

Rebecca Riot

Active Member
I'm sure Dan Hodges was Labour once though, many moons ago.

Or maybe Caroline Flint? Heard she's got nowt to do at the moment. Always good for a dig at the Corbynites 😄

I just remembered Sunny Hundal as well. He's another who's sort of hovered, well, all over the place.
I wouldn't be surprised if Andrew Pearce did a turn on there. In pre-covid times when he and Kevin Maguire did the Sky press preview live in the studio I will never know how Maguire resisted punching him in his smug gob. All he even did was smirk and sneer and dismiss everything Maguire said as left wing nonsense.
 

RichmondBlue

Active Member
Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favorable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favorable to its own side. (...) The receptive powers of the masses are very restricted, and their understanding is feeble. On the other hand, they quickly forget. Such being the case, all effective propaganda must be confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas. These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward. (...) Every change that is made in the subject of a propagandist message must always emphasize the same conclusion. The leading slogan must, of course, be illustrated in many ways and from several angles, but in the end one must always return to the assertion of the same formula.

Sound familiar ? It’s from Mein Kampf. With a largely right/far right media, where else is there for them to go ?
 

FavouredAntelope

Active Member
I actually think all liberals would benefit from engaging with more right-leaning content. Polarisation is one of the biggest problems in public debate - although you might argue this channel contributes rather than alleviates that. Looking at the staff list on Wikipedia though, I certainly didn't recognise any far-right names. The ones I recognised looked pretty moderate. Not being able to engage at all with content like this is a far bigger problem than the content itself.
 

RichmondBlue

Active Member
I actually think all liberals would benefit from engaging with more right-leaning content. Polarisation is one of the biggest problems in public debate - although you might argue this channel contributes rather than alleviates that. Looking at the staff list on Wikipedia though, I certainly didn't recognise any far-right names. The ones I recognised looked pretty moderate. Not being able to engage at all with content like this is a far bigger problem than the content itself.
You think people have a problem finding “right-leaning“ content ? How far right do you want them to lean ?
 

FavouredAntelope

Active Member
You think people have a problem finding “right-leaning“ content ? How far right do you want them to lean ?
The names on the staff list here are not far-right (at least the ones I am familiar with). I think labelling them as such represents a very big problem, because it would mean vast swathes of the country with mainstream views are considered beyond the pale. I don't think putting all these names on a 'right-wing' channel helps matters too much though. It won't get any engagement from people who don't already sympathise with conservative views.

 

Cliff

Distinguished Member
Well no one knows how the channel will be, until they start broadcasting. But they do have a pretty experienced line up according to the Wiki piece.
I really can’t see the problem with having a channel that might sit in the opposite corner to CH4 news, say.

Some of the remarks on here are weird. It’s like people are scared?

It’s unlikely the viewing figures will be high anyway. Just look at Sky News, which used to be the alternative to the BBC.
 

RichmondBlue

Active Member
Well no one knows how the channel will be, until they start broadcasting. But they do have a pretty experienced line up according to the Wiki piece.
I really can’t see the problem with having a channel that might sit in the opposite corner to CH4 news, say.

Some of the remarks on here are weird. It’s like people are scared?

It’s unlikely the viewing figures will be high anyway. Just look at Sky News, which used to be the alternative to the BBC.
A right wing news channel ? Yes, I am a little scared to be honest.
I think it was when quite moderate left wing views began to be labelled as extreme was when I first became worried. Then you see the rise of right wing parties in Europe and the success of Trump in the USA. Don’t forget,Trump is still swanning around after inciting a mob to murder. Dangerous times.
 

FavouredAntelope

Active Member
A right wing news channel ? Yes, I am a little scared to be honest.
I think it was when quite moderate left wing views began to be labelled as extreme was when I first became worried. Then you see the rise of right wing parties in Europe and the success of Trump in the USA. Don’t forget,Trump is still swanning around after inciting a mob to murder. Dangerous times.
I wouldn’t fall into the trap of thinking all people considered social conservatives are villains on a continuum with Donald Trump and left-wingers are incapable of evil. The best route to preventing extremism is to address our polarised climate and find common ground from which we can disagree civilly.

For instance, many who disagree with some of the progressive concensus on how to handle identity issues would empathise with your experience of being labelled extreme for having fairly mainstream views. That’s a good basis from which to have constructive dialogue.

Unfortunately, I don’t think a news channel widely seen as ‘right wing’ will help address this problem. Nor however do I think it is a gateway to extremism. I don’t see any evidence it is planning to host extremist content.
 

Greg Hook

Moderator & Reviewer
A right wing news channel ? Yes, I am a little scared to be honest.
I think it was when quite moderate left wing views began to be labelled as extreme was when I first became worried. Then you see the rise of right wing parties in Europe and the success of Trump in the USA. Don’t forget,Trump is still swanning around after inciting a mob to murder. Dangerous times.

The problem with these far right wing news channels is that they do not believe in facts. If this is anything like Fox in the USA it will be bad news.
 

Ron Hilditch

Well-known Member
I wouldn’t fall into the trap of thinking all people considered social conservatives are villains on a continuum with Donald Trump and left-wingers are incapable of evil. The best route to preventing extremism is to address our polarised climate and find common ground from which we can disagree civilly.

For instance, many who disagree with some of the progressive concensus on how to handle identity issues would empathise with your experience of being labelled extreme for having fairly mainstream views. That’s a good basis from which to have constructive dialogue.

Unfortunately, I don’t think a news channel widely seen as ‘right wing’ will help address this problem. Nor however do I think it is a gateway to extremism. I don’t see any evidence it is planning to host extremist content.
It's being condemned before it's first broadcast. How many of you think this is intolerant? Watch France 24 and Al Jazeera, UK news channels no longer do journalism. A better description would be Influencers.
 

richp007

Distinguished Member
The problem with these far right wing news channels is that they do not believe in facts. If this is anything like Fox in the USA it will be bad news.

I heard a rumour Tucker's got a slot. In between Brillo and Harwood.
 

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