Ridley Scott's - Prometheus (2012)

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  1. Fmrl

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    Except it didn't intend to kill but to store the victims for use later - possibly it's intention was to mutate into a Queen and start producing eggs?
     
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    From a scientific point of view, I find it implausible that the aliens could be considered 'the perfect bio-weapon'. They are a pretty messy and unpredictable way of killing ones enemies, and despite being vicious animals, they are quite vulnerable to conventional weapons. As for their natural reproductive cycle, the 'facehugger' pretty much depends on finding a host that has a face! And one that has opening for both lungs and stomach!

    In fact, they only make sense if they were tailor-made for humans.

    Oh wait.... ;)


    From a dramatic point of view, the alien embodies all our worst fears- particularly our fear of rape and (in women's case) childbirth. The lack of eyes also makes it incapable of reason- which is even more frightening.
     
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    As for using them as weapons, I think you'd drop the aliens on planet's you don't intend to set foot on.

    In the original Alien the xenomorphs were not vulnerable to conventional weapons, that's something Cameron changed for Aliens

    I'm sure any creature with an orifice will do just fine.
     
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    it's probably better to just nuke the planet from orbit. its the only way to be sure.
     
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    Aliens are more eco-friendly. :)
     
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    I don't remember seeing much in the way of weaponry in Alien.
     
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    Woah....getting a bit dark here....best stick to the Serbian film thread
     
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    Ash explains it all after they reconnect his head.
     
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    Got no problem with the bio-weapon theory meself. Say you want to destroy a city but you don't want to flatten the place, you send in the xeno's instead. The space jockeys could simply be intergalactic property developers, using the aliens to clear planets for terraforming. If they are used as a weapon, it would follow that their masters have some way of disposing of them...
     
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    what's wrong with spreading a virus? or a toxin? much more effective than sending in animals.
     
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    I agree that from what we know so far the creature wouldn't be the most effective means to clear a planet as it requires another living animal to come within range of it's egg. Look at what happened in the second film, it was only when Ripley tipped them off that caused the colony to be wiped out. Otherwise those eggs would be sitting there doing nothing, they probably still are.

    When you also take into account the fact that humans are still able to kill the creature (albeit with a lot a casualties) it's hard to accept that a shipful of eggs landing on earth would wipe us out. Humans would create the necessary means to be able to determine the large numbers travelling to and from hives and our armed forces would have a special 'Hive Unit' with the sole purpose of hunting and neutralizing the queens, thereby preventing further eggs being laid. It would be game over man.

    Basically, if we are to assume that this creature has been engineered as a biological weapon to clear planets, then they haven't done a very good job because it's reproduction cycle is a major weakness and obvious flaw in it's design.
     
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    Maybe the new film should twist the development of the species to include a reproductive system like a human, with a queen giving birth rather than laying eggs.

    Actually no, that would be a turd of a film.

    Oh, wait...
     
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    Just when I've almost managed to block that out of my head someone comes along and reminds me of it... I'll be suffering now for the rest of the day.
     

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    ..and then someone has to post a pic. :(


    ;)
     
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    because toxins, nuclear bombs, a virus would create a fallout or endanger all living organisms - i.e. plants/water etc. Besides, would you rather see hudson gunning down toxins or aliens?

    ;)
     
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    "How can they cut the power man, they're toxins"?

    Nah, don't like it.
     
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    Well an advanced race would surely be able to develop a means of cleanly eliminating lifeforms that doesn't endanger them. Bacterium/ chemicals that are harmless to them could have a sterilising effect on other lifeforms.

    But I wasn't suggesting it as a plot point ;)
     
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    Still an improvement on the 'Newborn' :) :suicide:
     
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    Hudson: [Hicks and Vasquez are welding the door shut] Movement. Signal's clean. Range, 20 meters.
    Ripley: They've found a way in, something we've missed.
    Hicks: We didn't miss anything.
    Hudson: 17 meters.
    Ripley: [Checking the tracker] Something under the floor, not in the plans, I don't know.
    Hudson: 15 meters.
    Newt: Ripley.
    Hicks: Definitely inside the barricades.
    Newt: Let's go.
    Hudson: 12 meters.
    Ripley: That's right outside the door. Hicks, Vasquez get back.
    Hudson: Man, this is a big ****in' signal.
    Hicks: How are we doing Vasquez, talk to me?
    Vasquez: Almost there.
    [They welded the door shut, and stepped back away from the door]
    Vasquez: There right on us.
    Hicks: Remember, short controlled bursts.
    Hudson: 9 meters. 7. 6.
    Ripley: That can't be; that's inside the room.
    Hudson: It's reading right man, look!
    Hicks: Then you're not reading *it* right.
    Hudson: 5 meters, man. 4. What the hell?

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...le_Geiger_counter_series_900_mini-monitor.jpg
     

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    Which sorta proves it's a Weyland Yutani product - no point making something perfect if you can make more cash by bodging it and then flogging them an upgrade later.
     
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    It's the one bit of the film that always confused me a little as they have weapons as it's clearly stated by Dallas "better break out the weapons" when the leave the ship to go walk about on the planetoid there is also the deleted scene of Kane putting his gun down when looking at the eggs but after this no more is mentioned of them as far as i can remember.
     
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    Maybe that's the real plot line we're all missing?

    This is all a clever marketing ploy to hype the i-Alien 3GS.
     
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    It maybe more accurate to say that the Nostromo crew had no weapons they could use. They probably had automatic or plasma weapons they could break out on-planet, but aboard ship such weapons could cause a fatal hull breach. This is mentioned at the start of Alien Resurrection:

    "Just concerned one of your asshole crewmembers might get drunk and put a bullet through the hull. We happen to be in space."

    So however tooled-up the Nostromo crew were, they were stuck with flamethrowers and cattle-prods against the alien.
     
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    I don't see why the crew of the Nostromo would need weapons. They are just truckers who transport minerals and who are supposed to be in hyper-sleep for most of the journey. This isn't Star Wars.
     
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    But the focus in Alien Resurrection is on a group of Space Pirates who target those very same sleepy truckers!
     
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    Enter Jar-Jar, stage left.
     
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    That takes place several hundred years later, so it's barely even the same world anymore.

    Also, why should the universe of original Alien retrospectively take into account a complete piece of garbage that was made a couple of decades later. It's not like they said, hold on, let's put weapons on the Nostromo because of those pirates in Alien Resurrection, which they will make in 20 years time.

    When I watch the original Alien I don't consider a future that will ever include a "Newborn" or Wynona Ryder.
     
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    [​IMG]

    :laugh:
     
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    I like to think that the events of Alien3 and Alien: Resurrection are a nightmare that Ripley is having whilst she is in cryosleep aboard the Sulaco returning to Earth.
     
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