Richer Sounds advise - Mordaunt over Mission

[Pids]

I had decided on the Mission Cinema 7 pack. But cannot get them for love nor money.


However our friends at RS reckon the Mordaunt Shorts Pack( 902, 904, 905) walk over them! Now at £500.

RS also reckon Gale pack of 320 , 340, 360 ar just as good.

What do you guys think.

 

[Tejpal]

Erm, what can i say.

Its a known fact that RS tries to flog of all there "own" products before any other, even if its not as good. They do it to me every time I try to buy something.

For example, I went into my local store and tried to buy some IXOS Scart cable, but they said "no, no sir, the cambridge audio cables are loads better. You should definatly go for these, they are alot more popular than the IXOS cables, and are better in every respect"

I didn't buy the cambridge audio cable. They could have been better, but I didnt like the way they tried to sell there own products before the one I wanted!

 

[Pids]

From your reply, am I to understand that these two alternatives are Richer Sounds own brands?

Do you know of anywhere else I can get Mission 77 pack or same quality package.

 

[higenbs1]

Pids - You could try a place called HyperFi. I managed to get my Mission 775e's from there (used to be £899, got them for £400), and their What HiFi advert often states the 77C1, 773e and 77DS as in stock.
I managed to eventually track down a 77C1 from Richer Sounds by ringing round the various shops in my area (Ipswich, Colchester, Norwich, Cambridge and even London) and eventually found a black one to suit the rest of my equipment. If you can't find the package as one, and don't mind travelling, you can probably track down the various models across various Richer Sounds shops. The downside, as I've mentioned, is you have to pick them up, as for some reason, they won't deliver their products to your nearest shop.

 

[NicolasB]

Mission Cinema 7, did you say? Two possibilities:

Camcorder World
95 Cranbrook Road
Ilford
Essex
IG1 4PG
Tel: 020 8514 6808


Harrow Audio
27 SPRINGFIELD ROAD
HARROW
HA1 4QF
Tel. 0800 174 219

 

[pointon]

Richer Sounds should keep a supply of salt in store so that everyone who they give advice to can take a pinch with it.

 

[darren7]

try hyper-fi , Barking Essex, they put adds in what hi-fi ....they have the set up from this as well,

give them a go

 

[dunkyboy]

My flatmate just bought the M-S setup (well, 902 signature mains and 905 centre, with gale mini surrounds) and it's properly impressive for the money. I used to have the Mission Cinema 7 set, but it was a while ago (more than a year) so I couldn't say without a doubt which was better. However, I will say that the M-S's have subjectively more authority and dynamic range. The bass is also very impressive (although the room is quite small so they get a lot of wall reinforcement). I don't, however, think they're as good for music.

Just because Richer Sounds' salesmen can be a bit annoying, don't automatically count out the Mordaunt-Shorts.

Cheers,

Dunc

 

[buns]

I have a pair of MS20i bookshlf/standmount speakers. They dont look particularly expensive, they are an old model originally costing in the region of £200. But......i maintain that these are yet the best budget speakers i have ever heard. They are fast, they are sharp, accurate, tonally pleasant (they dont seem too harsh yet dont add un necessary warmth). In short they are yet the best speaker i could recommend under £400. Of course i neglest that they lack bass due to their size....but a true lover of music will recognise far more important qualities! Anyhow.....what im trying to say is that MS speakers were at one point really very very good. I heard a pair of the more recent offerings and was marginally disappointed, they seemed to have ditched the lovely tight accurate sound favouring some more bass weight, which has managed to muddy the sound a bit and made the whole thing seem a bit slow to my ears. But I still think that they should be worth a demo. Many people will just buy at the best price at this price range, but there is a lot of really good gear and it is wel worth auditioning to try and find it.

All that said, I have enormous respect for mission speakers on the end of a capable amp.

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[Smurfin]

Originally posted by higenbs1
Pids - You could try a place called HyperFi. I managed to get my Mission 775e's from there (used to be £899, got them for £400), and their What HiFi advert often states the 77C1, 773e and 77DS as in stock.
I managed to eventually track down a 77C1 from Richer Sounds by ringing round the various shops in my area (Ipswich, Colchester, Norwich, Cambridge and even London) and eventually found a black one to suit the rest of my equipment. If you can't find the package as one, and don't mind travelling, you can probably track down the various models across various Richer Sounds shops. The downside, as I've mentioned, is you have to pick them up, as for some reason, they won't deliver their products to your nearest shop.

Sound advice here. I have mission 775es for my mains and 773es for my rears and they sound bloody marvellous. Don't listen to RS without having a demo yourself.

A demo of the 775s would be difficult as they are a nightmare to get hold of, but trust me they are a class act.

PM if you can travel to Cambridge and I would happily give you a demo.

Rgds
Matt

 

[Mr Pleasant]

I'd echo Buns' sentiment - my hi fi is still playing through a 16yr old pair of Mordaunt Short MS100 Golds. These are a bookshelf design so not a lot of bass, but superb in every other respect. An audiophile friend with a Meridian CD player, Croft valve amp and Acoustic Energy speakers (i.e. fussy about hi fi) has always considered them excellent. MS had financial problems a few years back and got bought out by... can't remember. Anyway, perhaps their hi fi credentials have been tarnished by their association with Richer Sounds, but don't let that stop you giving them a chance.

 

[WhyAyeMan]

Originally posted by pointon
Richer Sounds should keep a supply of salt in store so that everyone who they give advice to can take a pinch with it.

But if you cant tell the difference they'll give you some cotton buds

 

[chris l.]

Just to be controversial.

I'm running

Morndaunt-Short 208's (picked up second hand pair from loot for £120 about 2 months ago in showroom condition) as my fronts (good bass without the boom),

Morndaunt-Short sub MSW20 (£130 new from RS about a year ago),

MS905 centre (£120 new from RS about a year ago),

3x mission M7Ds for rear surrounds (movies) (£124 a pair about a year ago, sold 1 so I have a 6.1 setup),

Morndaunt-Short 206's for rear surround music (£299 new about 5 years ago) used to be me fronts.

Prior to the 208's I did pick up a pair of Mission 753 Freedoms after a year of looking, but after a couple of months I still wasn't happy with the all bass and no clarity / detail they output and to much disappointment I got rid of them. I tried a few other mains until I found the 208's which to me are perfect.

So for music it’s all M-S and for movies the Mission M7DS take over from the MS206's

Don't be afraid to mix and match and go with what you like and not what a subsidised magazine article or one of the many 100's of AV / hifi "experts" say.

I'm a great believer in getting last years models, the money you save when compared to this years models with a few aesthetic changes is not to be sniffed at.

I and many of the so-called "experts" can't tell the difference. It's like the old white wine / red wine blindfold test. It's guesswork more than use of tuned senses etc.

Regards,

Chris L.

 

[buns]

in defence of the 753's, they needed a lot of amplification, probably you were needing £1k upwards in any amps i heard before you got a remotely worthwhile sound. They were just too hard to drive at the price, but in a better system they shone some what more!

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[James45]

Originally posted by darren7
try hyper-fi , Barking Essex, they put adds in what hi-fi ....they have the set up from this as well,

give them a go

Bought my first system from this shop and they are well worth a go, they will also suggest alternatives if they think there is better sounding equipment available for the same price, very helpful but not pushy. Have they moved from their old shop on the corner of Ilford Lane though?

 

[common]

[PM if you can travel to Cambridge and I would happily give you a demo]

Or if you live near Oxford I can demo my Mission 774's, 77C and the 77ds for you

 

[Tejpal]

Try your nearest Superfi.

I bought my first hi-fi from there, they were very good. And if you get all your stuff from there, they will knock of a few £££'s

 

[gringottsdirect]

Originally posted by buns
in defence of the 753's, they needed a lot of amplification, probably you were needing £1k upwards in any amps i heard before you got a remotely worthwhile sound. They were just too hard to drive at the price, but in a better system they shone some what more!
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Agreed

 

[Rob]

I still use a pair of MS-817 floorstanders as my main pair. I picked them up cheaply about 3 years ago, and they sound pretty good . I'll probably change them at some point though. Didn't Richer sounds buy the Mordaunt Short brand??

Rob.