RGB Scart to Component (RGB) not working on Pace 1000

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  1. cameronl

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    hi there all, I'm trying to get the following working.

    Pace 1000 Telewest Cable Box > Sim2 pj Input Box (Component RGB)

    I have a cable with scart at one end and component at the other.

    I plug the Scart end into the rgb output on the pace box (TV) and I plug the component cable into my RGB component inputs.

    This however doesn't work; though RGB to composite does on another cable I have.

    I have enabled the RGB colour settings (vision & audio section). Is there anywhere else where I need to change a setting to make it output RGB?

    thanks for your time.

    CaM
     
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    You can't simply convert RGB to component as component needs a sync signal on the green channel, whereas RGB scart has this on Pin19. What does work with some (but by far not all) devices is that you get a scart to 4 phono cable (or even 6 phono if you want sound broken out, which in this case you probably want). You then connect R, G and B to the component inputs and the sync cable to the composite input of the projector (and the analog L/R sound to the amp). I was asking this question recently and it seems that only very few devices are capable of accepting RGB this way, not sure if your projector is.

    The cable you'd need is something like this
     
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    MPK,

    Please take a look at a thread I replied to some time back and tell me waht you think

    I still think I was right but others did not.
    If I was it is a neat soulution and means you can use decent interconnects.

    Please let me know

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    hmm....I am not sure if that's the same thing. From Keene's description it does the following: "Scart to four phono plug adaptor wired for RGB plus switchable composite in/out". This means the composite is a full composite input and output (that's what the switch is for) and the other outputs are simply red, green and blue for RGB (phono RGB). You would probably get a picture with all 4 connected, but it would be the composite signal. The sync signal, which is on Pin19 of the scart is only part of the composite and RGB signal. If you feed it to a device, which accepts RGBvcS it will know how to combine the RGB and sync signals. But if you feed a full composite signal I don't think it will "filter" out the sync signal and use the colour from the RGB inputs. I could be wrong though...
     
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    MPK,

    This is what you get on pin 19 of scart: VIDEO/Sync/Luminance Output

    Therefore to me it is exactly the same

    Anyone else?

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    19: Composite Video Out 1V including sync 75 ohm
     
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    as a side note my manual says

    RGBHV on DB15HD connector
    RGBs/YCrCb on RCA/Phono type connector

    Horizontal freq 15 - 80 kHz
    Vertical freq 40-100 Hz

    Does any of that make sense to you guys?

    CaM
     
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    ok, apparently my pj has RGBS capabilities.

    er, so what does this mean? :)

    CaM
     
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    You may be confusing RGB and component, they are not the same thing


    RGB

    Like the S-Video 4pin connector, RGB carries picture information only and also offers superior performance - arguably better that S-Video. RGB carries the primary colours (Red, Green & Blue) in a picture signal separately for greater picture clarity, sharper images and better colour plus a fourth connector is used for the sync information.
    * This signal often gets confused with Component (YUV) - a Scart or FOUR independent connectors are needed to carry RGB.
    * Beware, not all AV equipment can output an RGB signal - VCR's cannot. Today most games consoles, satellite/cable boxes, DVD players can - however, this must be set-up in the equipments on screen menu.
    * To connect an RGB Scart output to a projector or a plasma screen using BNC's or phono's for RGB connection, make sure you have four sockets marked R,G,B & Composite Sync - the latter is necessary to stop the picture rolling.
    Connector/Cable: 4 x Phono Plugs OR 4 x BNC Plugs

    :)
     
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    I think from Cameron's description of the projector the RGBvcS (RGB via composite sync) should work. So you could use the keene adapter, but the problem is you won't have any sound. I suggest a scart to 6 phono cable like the link in my first post, this will allow you to divert analog audio to your amp.
     
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    I preferred the adaptor as it allows you to use high quality interconnects :thumbsup:
     
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    oops meant to say as also you are likely to want to take sound to your processor not projector :D
     

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