RF Modulator on DTV PVR

chriswillb

Standard Member
Hi, today i was given a 16" tv with built in freeview and a built in pvr as a gift. I was also given a freesat box as i use freesat at my house. The problem is i would like to use the PVR with the scart freesat box but the PVR only works when on the built in freeview mode (There is also Analogue Tv mode as well but the PVR only works while on Freeview mode and not any other mode such as Scart, HDMI, etc). The only way i see to use the PVR with the freesat box is to get a Scart To Coax Video Modulator Universal Scart To Coax Video Modulator: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics, plug one end into the RF socket in the TV and the other into the SCART out on the back of the freesat box then tune in to the modulator in freeview mode on the TV, but would this work? I know these work with terrestrial TVs but would this work on the tv while in freeview tuning mode? Thanks in advance and merry xmas.
 

swedish cook

Novice Member
Sorry, no chance to record freesat in this way. For a small tv why not just use freeview... Any HD will be irrelevant at 16".
 

chriswillb

Standard Member
Will it not work because the modulator keeps the signal analogue? The freesat is SD and the reason i wanted to use it was because it was given along with the TV and i don't have an aerial, just a satellite with a quad LNB.
 

swedish cook

Novice Member
Will it not work because the modulator keeps the signal analogue? The freesat is SD and the reason i wanted to use it was because it was given along with the TV and i don't have an aerial, just a satellite with a quad LNB.

With RF modullator it will be analog yes. If you want a satellite pvr but cannot afford a "full" one there are many generic satellite receivers on ebay that record to usb, but you won't get 7 day epg.
 

chriswillb

Standard Member
Okay thanks, so for the setup i'm after i would need a SCART to DVB-T modulator which i'm guessing costs £££?
 

Railway

Active Member
Okay thanks, so for the setup i'm after i would need a SCART to DVB-T modulator which i'm guessing costs £££?

Hi Chris, It's an impossible task as far as I can see. It's not just a simple modulator you need. These PVR's just record the transport stream as received from the multiplex. An analogue signal would have to be digitised as an mpeg 2 transport stream (simple enough) but it would have to be on the correct frequency and (this is the difficult bit) have all the correct identifiers for audio channel, video channel, channel name, error correction and much more. If you have a look on the internet you can find out how the stream is made up and it's very very complicated.

Sorry but don't waste your time. ;)
 

kevkbuk

Distinguished Member
It's not impossible and DVB-T modulators are available, but it's a small and specialist market and prices are very high. It is far cheaper to buy a Freesat PVR, get saving.
 

logiciel

Moderator
there are many generic satellite receivers on ebay that record to usb, but you won't get 7 day epg.
There's at least one that does the equivalent of the Freesat EPG, and it's not expensive, so that's one option.
A more expensive Freesat PVR is another, or you could simply record to a very inexpensive DVD recorder from the Freesat receiver that you have now.
 

chriswillb

Standard Member
Okay thanks guys, i was just hoping i could use the PVR which was available, apparently not. But thanks for your responses.
 

logiciel

Moderator
That's OK, and it all comes down to what you said from the start: "the PVR only works when on the built in freeview mode".
That's what PVRs do - record from their machines' own tuners.
 

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