Hi All,
Obviously im here because I enjoy AV as much as the rest of us. Unfortunately im often guilty of trying to do too much in the limited space I have. My room is small (4m x 3.2m) and is used as a combination of a second sitting room and cinema room!
Hopefully these guys dont mind me tagging them too. Weve not spoke before but Ive read your material around the forums and hope you can help @MI55ION @Conrad. Apologies for bothering you if youre busy!
Last December I got rid of my towers when the room was re decorated and purchased the XTZ cinema series for wall mounting (very wife friendly!). After missing the bass that came from my towers I took to DIY Subs, and made a pair of rather large beasts (not wife friendly!). In all honesty, size wise, they are too big for the room - but were getting used to them and they do dig deep – so hopefully they are staying.
Now on to the reason for the thread. Since doing the DIY subwoofers, Ive learnt a lot about REW. Whilst I can EQ my subwoofers significantly to get a nice curve – masking many problems – I am unable to now look away from the results of the speakers which Audyssey doesn’t seem to be able to fix. Eq’ing the subwoofers was also particularly difficult likely due to problems in the room, including the size. So this morning I have gone about modelling the room in sketchup, including some potential rooms treatment (corner bass traps and rear absorption panels)
I was hoping to get some thoughts and insight into what I can potentially do before I start building these things and if anyone can guide me on what improvements I might expect or If im simply chasing a white rabbit. I have attached the images below
One of my main concerns is my corner bass traps are not large enough but as you can see I do not have much room to go much bigger. they are 300mm out from the corner in both directions. From the corner out it is 212mm (8.5"). Absorption panels I was hoping to do 50mm deep with 50mm air gap behind. Also my rear corner traps would have to be cut around my side speakers.
So, here are my REW results with no EQ from my amp or audyssey, followed by images of my room (i have attached the REW file for anyone that wants to look deeper, admittedly I am still very much the beginner)
Also - Im very much aware this is not an optimal room, its part of the house too. Im just trying to do my best with what im working with The room is rectangular. All speakers are mounted symetrically with tweeters at ear level. The separation between the fronts is quite wide due to having a motorised projector screen. Surrounds are at 90 degree to the listening position. Fronts are toed towards MLP
Red with EQ & Audyssey - Blue without
Key for sketchup images
Black – Speakers & Subs
Green – AV shelving
Yellow – Potential room treatment
Red – My curtains and curtain poles!
Windows and doors hopefully obvious. My room is plasterboard on top of concrete block for 3 walls (2 external, 1 old external). The wall with the double doors is a stud wall filled with insulation that goes to a kitchen. Were also in a bungalow, so concrete floor. Flooring is carpet. One big L shape sofa also dominates the room
Obviously im here because I enjoy AV as much as the rest of us. Unfortunately im often guilty of trying to do too much in the limited space I have. My room is small (4m x 3.2m) and is used as a combination of a second sitting room and cinema room!
Hopefully these guys dont mind me tagging them too. Weve not spoke before but Ive read your material around the forums and hope you can help @MI55ION @Conrad. Apologies for bothering you if youre busy!
Last December I got rid of my towers when the room was re decorated and purchased the XTZ cinema series for wall mounting (very wife friendly!). After missing the bass that came from my towers I took to DIY Subs, and made a pair of rather large beasts (not wife friendly!). In all honesty, size wise, they are too big for the room - but were getting used to them and they do dig deep – so hopefully they are staying.
Now on to the reason for the thread. Since doing the DIY subwoofers, Ive learnt a lot about REW. Whilst I can EQ my subwoofers significantly to get a nice curve – masking many problems – I am unable to now look away from the results of the speakers which Audyssey doesn’t seem to be able to fix. Eq’ing the subwoofers was also particularly difficult likely due to problems in the room, including the size. So this morning I have gone about modelling the room in sketchup, including some potential rooms treatment (corner bass traps and rear absorption panels)
I was hoping to get some thoughts and insight into what I can potentially do before I start building these things and if anyone can guide me on what improvements I might expect or If im simply chasing a white rabbit. I have attached the images below
One of my main concerns is my corner bass traps are not large enough but as you can see I do not have much room to go much bigger. they are 300mm out from the corner in both directions. From the corner out it is 212mm (8.5"). Absorption panels I was hoping to do 50mm deep with 50mm air gap behind. Also my rear corner traps would have to be cut around my side speakers.
So, here are my REW results with no EQ from my amp or audyssey, followed by images of my room (i have attached the REW file for anyone that wants to look deeper, admittedly I am still very much the beginner)
Also - Im very much aware this is not an optimal room, its part of the house too. Im just trying to do my best with what im working with The room is rectangular. All speakers are mounted symetrically with tweeters at ear level. The separation between the fronts is quite wide due to having a motorised projector screen. Surrounds are at 90 degree to the listening position. Fronts are toed towards MLP
Red with EQ & Audyssey - Blue without
Key for sketchup images
Black – Speakers & Subs
Green – AV shelving
Yellow – Potential room treatment
Red – My curtains and curtain poles!
Windows and doors hopefully obvious. My room is plasterboard on top of concrete block for 3 walls (2 external, 1 old external). The wall with the double doors is a stud wall filled with insulation that goes to a kitchen. Were also in a bungalow, so concrete floor. Flooring is carpet. One big L shape sofa also dominates the room