A Sky+ box would be perfect for my current needs - but live in a flat with a communal dish so sadly it's out of the question. I don't particularly care about the DVD recording (it's a bonus not a requirement) - I just want a fat hard-disk recorder (quiet!) that can be triggered off the EPG on my Sky digibox... none of this "8 program limit" nonsense I see some models have... Money not really an object - from the research I have done the Panasonic E95 and E500 might be candidates but happy to be recommended otherwise. Ultimately I want what it seems many people here do - internet/network-based connectivity, built-in tuner, EPG etc but sadly we have to wait by the looks - hence whatever I buy will undoubtedly be replaced in a years time or so... I saw someone mention the network features of the E500 - they seem rather "crippled" and mostly pointless here in the UK at the moment (correct me if wrong) - havent seen anyone mention whether Panasonic could/would ever upgrade the software in it, or whether it is just a "dead duck" that they get right in future models instead... Oh yeah - and it has to be available now - I go on holiday for a month in just over a week hence the "urgency" - need to decide in the next couple of days! Many thanks to all that respond - the other postings in here have been great reading just to get to this point... Cheers, Kiwidude.