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Replacement Lamps for Projects £ ??

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by rcladin, Apr 23, 2003.

  1. rcladin

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    Hi there,

    I'm interested in potentially purchasing a projector for home cinema usage, likely to be in a few months,

    Initially looking at the PT-AE300, its about £1,700 at the moment, but I was wondering how much a replacement lamp is likely to cost?

    If you need a new one every 2 years or so, for normal usage for example, would just like to get a feel for the overall cost of the thing!

    Also is lamp replacement something you do yourself at home or does the unit need to be sent to a specialist?



    Thanks for your time

    Cheers

    -rcladin:confused:
     
  2. LJT

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    Hello -rcladin. I've searced high and low for a replacement lamp for the panny 100 and according to the manual for the panny 300 the same lamp is used ET-LAE100

    The cheapest I've found so far is a company in Bangor (wales I believe) any how here's their address

    http://www.gaia-tech.com/shop/gaia shop/en-
    gb/dept_1349.html

    As you will see the price is £193.00. I called them when I found their site a couple of weeks back and they actually had the lamps in stock.

    You can get a tad cheaper in the states.
    So far no one has been able to say where the replacement price of a £150.00 comes from or can be found.
    Anyhow if the price of £193.00 is sustained thats certainly a lot cheaper then my previous PJ the philips SV10 that weighed in with a price of nearly £380.00

    I hope this is of some use
     
  3. theritz

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    LJT,

    Good find !

    rcladin,

    As far as the AE100 (and I assume the AE300 as well) is concerned, replacing the lamp is less than five minute job - instructions in the manual and its intended to be done by the user - no specialist attention needed.

    All the best,

    Sean G.
     
  4. Jona

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    Out of interest, anyone know why lamps are so damn expensive? :eek:

    I've always wondered why something that looks like it should cost £9.99, (or at a push £19.99), costs several hundred pounds.

    Are the innards coated with platinum or sumfink?:rolleyes:

    My suspicion is that they only cost hundreds of pounds because dumbo's such as ourselves are silly enough to pay it. I guess prices will come down dramatically when the 'normal' consumers start to buy them.
     
  5. Kramer

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    Where are you going to get a replacement lamp cheaper? It's a specialist market with specialist pricing :(

    Agreed, the lamps can't cost very much to manufacture, but they're not as common as 100w tungsten lamps - hence the prices.

    Of little consequence anyway IMO as it's unlikely many owners will be requiring replacement lamps before requiring replacement PJs :eek:
     
  6. Jona

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    I remember buying a new lamp for the interior of my Neff oven a few weeks back. At the time I thought that £4.99 was rather expensive :thumbsdow, but the guy in the store explained that it was because it had to withstand such high temperatures.:devil: Considering that (presumably) an oven is hotter than a projector (apart from some dodgy models), it makes the £4.99 that I paid seem like a massive bargain! :smashin:

    Probably very true!:suicide:
     
  7. Insp.Gadget

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    I read in an article by Philips on projector bulbs that the inside of a lamp when it's running gets hotter than the surface of the sun. Unbelievable but I guess it's true (and no I didn't read it on April 1st !). Guess that's why they cost more than your average 60w bulb from Tescos .

    Solution - encourage all your friends and family to buy projectors and then the price of manufacturing the bulbs will come down !:D :D :suicide:
     
  8. LJT

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    Kramer you said

    "Of little consequence anyway IMO as it's unlikely many owners will be requiring replacement lamps before requiring replacement PJs "

    On your 1000th post you said

    "Switching between Cinema black on/off doesn't result in ANY increased light output. The fans do speed up, but the screen doesn't change one iota. Nada, no flicker, nothing.

    So it looks like I need a bulb replacement - already "


    It would seem then Kramer. That although of little consequence, there will be some people who need to purchase a new lamp before a new pj!!!
     
  9. John Watts

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    LJT,

    Kramer was talking about the average user. Im sure Kramer is not an average user of a PJ so its not too hard to imagine that he may use lamps quicker than " normal " users.
     
  10. LJT

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    Actually talking of lamp prices. I wonder what the cost of cine 8 and slide projectors are?

    look here at the price of these lamps.

    http://www.widescreen-centre.co.uk/price4.html
    Shocking isn't it? Why some are as much as £29.00 !!!
    We think we're getting ripped of.

    Now look at this site http://www.hommie.net/parts.htm
    Quote from that site
    "This is the bulb and ballast, the bulb is a 400W metal halide rated at 38,000 lumens at 4000K color temp and lasts about 20,000 hours but I recommend changing it after
    10,000 because over time the light does get dim. The ballast is a 400W multitap metal halide ballast both can be found at some online stores and most all electrical

    supply stores, costs about $20 for the bulb and $70 for the ballast. The bulb is a
    MVR400/U/ED28 the ballast is a M59 multitap. I will be changing to a 1000W metal halide bulb soon I just don't think the 400W is bright enough for my setup."

    Now that is taking the pi*&

    The price of lamps are totally OT. Just look at the variation in prices for the panny 100e. It shows there must be an enormouse mark up on these things.
     
  11. Dom Rice

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    How do phillips know what the Suns surface temperature is. Have they been there with a thermometer?
     
  12. Insp.Gadget

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    Good Point Mr Rice ! :clap: Perhaps that's why the damn things cost so much, because Philips are sending shuttles up to take the readings !

    The boring technical answer I believe is to do with the radiation it gives off which can be measured.:lesson:
     
  13. Kramer

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    Look at printer prices for example. A printer (IMHO) can't be sold for <£30 & still be profitable for the manufacturer, but the resultant cartridge sales will more than make up for the defecit.

    i.e. printer costs £30, but 2x refill cartridges (1x colour + 1x b&w)cost £40!

    The X-box is widely accepted as being sold at a loss but the resultant profits from games (@>40 each :eek: ) more than puts Microsoft in the black.

    The mark-up on projector lamps/bulbs is huge, but the manufacturers are also "profiteering" from these prices.

    Yes, I'm not the happiest with my HS10 output, but it's entirely watchable (as evidenced by theritz's acclaimation :) ) & there is a known issue with the initial batch of lamps fitted to this PJ.

    My point was that with the exponential growth of technology & average useage, most will never see the "stated" life of the bulb (be it 3000, 5000 or 6000 hours).

    But agreed, PJ replacement lamp prices are a pure & simple rip off, but again, specialised market - what are the options??

    I'm sure we'll eventually have "spurious" replacements available, at a fraction of the price.

    Time (nearly) for :boring:
     

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