Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Mr Incredible, Mar 25, 2017.
BST start tomorrow! Yay!
Why do they always state it officially goes forward or back at a certain time (01:00am IIRC)?
So it does not affect most things, like it goes back at 2am is it?. Pubs n clubs either shut or stay open and nothing else really open or affected by the change at that late time.
Except some serious time travel in a taxi if you have had a few and forget
One of the most important things about at a time system, is that at any one time, there is only one time.
Anyone got a concrete reason why we still do this? What would actually go wrong if we just picked one time and stuck with it throughout the year?
Is it farmers, still?
I've never heard the full 'farmers' explanation - some people mutter about it being something to do with the cows - anyone fill in the many blanks?
That means I lose an hour of my weekend
On the plus side I won't get woken up so early now by incessant birdsong at such an ungodly hour
I found the history of why it started and and why we continue to do it quite fascinating: British Summer Time and Daylight Saving
^ that article still doesn't explain why this practice is still observed.
If you want to do more outside in the summer, get up with the light. Simple. No mucking around with things just to suit... errr... recent tradition.
Can you guess that this bugs me?
From the link: The duration of British Summer Time was changed in 1998 to bring the date of the start of summer time into line with that used in the rest of the European Community.
Will that be reversed after brexit?
It does, it's because in the north and Scotland wouldn't see dawn until 10am during some parts of the year.
Solution - Northern Time
That's not a reason to muck about with clocks - why does it matter what time is showing on a clock - those further north than Scotland manage just fine - Iceland, Greenland etc. etc.
I like the radio controlled clocks and watches available these days.
Replaced two clocks so far, intend to replace all clocks and watches in the house. Don't have to touch them: unpack, put batteries in, job done.
It's not just us there's about 70 other countries that mess about with their clock times throughout the year
I'm not sure the UK's situation is comparable to countries which spend whole days in either near daylight or near-total darkness 24 hours a day for much of the year.
If we have a choice of not having our children walk to school in the dark, of not having the morning or evening rush hours be in darkness for longer, of giving more people access to vitamin D-promoting light at a time when vitamin D deficiency is increasing, etc., then I'll happily take that over the minor inconvenience of having to change a few clocks twice a year.
Both local and ex-pat friends of mine in Sweden constantly bemoan the lack of daylight.
I found it a bit bizarre that the Freeview and Virgin TV guides showed Pirates of the Caribbean starting at 22:35 and finishing at 2:10
I don't mind either way, but I've never really understood that argument. As a child (down south), I clearly remember it being dark when I went to school & dark when I came home from school. Same as adult now, going to work.
So if we fix on time so it is always light by say 8.00 am, what actually goes wrong?
Probably nothing. But we've got a system that was established before most people were born, that everyone understands and that more or less works, barring the odd moan here and there.
On the list of things that need fixing, I don't think BST/GMT/something else is particular high up.
We had to change all the clocks on the breathing apparatus entry boards at 01.00 (either forward or back). If we had an incident where there was a fatality or serious injury to a firefighter wearing breathing apparatus the board and it's clock were taken as evidence. So it had to be right at the right time unless the incident had began just prior to 01.00.
When I see a process which when asked people just kind of shrug and go 'dunno, we've just always done it this way' it's normally a sign of something that can be trimmed to save unnecessary effort. Best way to do it is imagine we are not doing it currently, and see who explains why it is an improvement. If no one can, bin.
But that's kind of what's happened here. We had one system, it was changed because circumstances meant it was better to do so. It was later tweaked slightly to bring it in line with others doing the same and that made sense, too.
Since those things happened, many have proposed changing it at various times. No other suggestion – including going back to before it was the case – has been deemed better, so it's not changed.
That's the trouble with beaurocracy - hard to trim the waste - but better in the long run if you do.
I prefer BST. It gives my solar lights that extra hour's charge. After today's beautiful sunshine I'm looking foward to a spectacular display tonight.
How many clocks left to go?
*Said my girlfriend shortly before I fell asleep*
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