Remember The Good Old Days ?

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  1. SteelHoarder

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    - When we actually used to buy a title based on the title and the quality of the High Definition Presentation it was encoded with ?
    - When did the nice shiny metal box become more important than the actual movie inside it ?

    I'm just finding this obsession slightly ridiculous and sad and downright worrying ( and I include myself in the affected/infected group ) - it seems we are buying steels simply for possessing the steelbook itself and not even thinking (or caring) about the film inside it.

    I reckon about 80% of the discs go unwatched and are simply locked inside the shiny new case which is proudly stuck on a shelf or display stand to feed our egos & OCDs with.
    Are we all sick ? :eek:
     
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    I agree that this is the case for some. I personally only own a small amount of steelbooks and they're my faves. Take the iron man films that were just released. A lot bought it due to the "collectibility" factor. I actually just love the films.

    There are some great titles coming out over the next few months. I'll prob only get a couple that I love myself.

    I know some collectors that will buy a steelbook but swap out the disc for a better version. Maybe a better transfer or more features etc.

    So yes, this mentality exists to an extent but maybe not as common as suggested :)
     
  3. Jim Di Griz

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    Not for me. Yes ive got into buying steels but...only for the films I really like. Iron man? Not interested! Superhero films except batman? Not interested! Really crap covers like the Thing? Not interested! Forrest bloody Dump?

    You get the picture ;-)
     
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    Looks like I'm still living in the good old days. ;)

    I've never seen so many handwringing, despairing threads as on this forum. Seems an addiction to cheap tin packaging is as bad as a crack addiction. :D
     
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    What are the despairing threads?
     
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    I guess some people collect stamps, some people collect walking sticks, some people collect cars.

    I used to collect beer mats and empty beer bottles from around the world.

    Now I collect steelbooks, its a hobby, and right now I enjoy it and it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling ! :D
     
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    Just the films I like for me.
     
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    The main reason is most of the Steelbook collectors don't even open their copies as they are worried that it might lose value over a period of time or simply don't like it being opened. I find this a bit over the top. There is nothing wrong in keeping a small percentage of Steelbooks sealed but keeping almost everything sealed sounds a bit stupid and defies the very purpose of collecting them.

    I am very specific vocal when it comes to actual picture quality. If the Steelbook is cheap and if the disc is the one and only version available then I have no concerns buying it. Otherwise, I usually skip the release or sell the discs immediately and keep just the empty case as I really can't stand having inferior discs in my collection. Here are some great movies released in Steelbook format with inferior or poor picture / encoding:

    1. The Thing - Rubbish
    2. Casino - A bit too much of filtering
    3. Psycho - DNR + Edge Enhancement but acceptable
    4. Troy - Filtered but acceptable as it got a mint remaster
    5. V for Vendetta - heavily filtered
    6. Batman Begins - heavily filtered
    7. The Dark Knight - not rubbish but certainly over processed
    8. Apollo 13 - Rubbish

    I prefer an opened / mint Steelbook than a sealed one with sticky glues.
     
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    I open mine, watch them and that's it. I only buy the films I want to watch and even then I would buy the amaray if the Steelbook sucked.

    If people buy them even when they don't like the film or don't open them then they have too much £
     
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    I've just cancelled a couple of pre-orders, after seeing the films and thinking it's not one I'm going to watch over and over again. I've only got a handful, and it will remain that way I think.
    I'm spending far too much money on Lego these days anyway, so I can understand why people want to collect them. You spend a lot on tin, I spend a lot on plastic!
     
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    I started down this murky road last year and i get the feeling that i need to stop but the Play.com releases are cheap and satisfy my desires. I have to admit that i don't buy them all but just the films that i don't own and would like to have but it does annoy me that the film companies are releasing inferior transfers of the films on the discs and just chucking them out the door. In fact as seen on some of the releases the steelbook is a single disc release but has a disc with disc1 on it because the companies are just trying to offload overprints and old stock and a steelbook is a great way to do it.

    I used to relish tracking down some of the older OOP UK titles but now it seems a steelbook is becoming an item that is no longer collectable. Is a FS Iron Man now devalued because of the Play.com version? Look at the steelbook trades on here alone. Suddenly everybody is trying to use an Iron Man to get an older OOP title and they have flooded the section instantly devaluing the title.

    I now have 110 steelbooks but find that what i used to enjoy is now not becoming a collectable passion as there are too many worldwide releases on steelbook and trying to guess the rarer titles is too much of an expensive game for me. Owning a rare title is what made my collection worth the while but that is no longer the case. I need to check into rehab.

    Oh and i only bought 1 Iron Man and 1 Iron Man 2 as i realised that the titles i am still after are way beyond trade value of what is essentially a £10.99 steelbook.
     
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    If you find it fun to do then don't worry about it. People collect all sorts of weird crap. My Mum collects tiny ornaments of snails, god knows why. Collecting is a pointless hobby but it keeps people amused. If cost is the issue then just be more selective in future.
     
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    All collecting is illogical to a non-collector and some such as art or stamps is also very expensive for something that has no intrinsic value, a painting is just a bit of canvas and some dried up paint, a stamp is just a bit of printed paper.

    Like a lot of collectors I just get the SBs of the films I want to own anyway and then open them to actually watch the film :eek:

    There are advantages to SBs over normal Amaray versions, for example they keep their value much better especially if they are limited by numbers or retailer.
     
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    I am new to steelbook collecting. First one was Wolfman. Picked it up from cex for £3 and now i am hooked lol. I know the film is rubbish, but it was the first time i ever held a steelbook lol.

    I am only collecting films i want, but my pre orders stand at around £400 i would imagine. But then i can sell my non steelbook versions to soften the blow,

    Rise of the foot solider is probably regarded as a terrible film. But for me, i loved it. So will get the SB version. IM1 and IM2 didnt like the films. So didnt bother :)
     
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    i dont remember the good old days - to be honest ive never been bothered if a film looks perfect, there are too many techy terms that go over my head. to me its been bluray over dvd and dvd over video.

    when it comes to steelbooks most people know my story and deal. ive spent way to much money on steelbooks with around 200 imported steels bought in my life although over half have been sold, and a complete uk dvd and bluray steelbook collection even if the movies are those i cant stand or are available on dvd and bluray steelbooks, or even in the case of kick-ass, prince of persia and scott pilgrim, twice on bluray steel.

    its an addiction i have no doubt about that - people wonder how i can afford it - well with no social life and not drinking, smoking, taking drugs or eating good food (i live on around £20 per week for food) i have been able to get by and buy the steelbooks.

    obviously that is a pretty shocking thing to do, and i understand the majority of the steels will never be watched, either from not being bothered about the film, or having another version i wont sell (maybe has bonus discs or slipcases).

    i am a completist to the stupid degree. if i decide to collect something, i dont stop until its complete. if i cant complete it, then i usually sell what i have, as i cant fathom that a collection doesnt need to be 100% but thats the mindset i have.

    ive seen fellow collectors on various forums who have a big collection of dvd steels, bluray steels, wwe dvds, tartan asia extreme dvds, ecw dvds, arrow video limited editions etc - but i dont know anyone who feels the need to have 100% of all of them. so why me?

    at this point im on autopilot with steelbooks. i spend more time making sure ive ordered them than enjoying them. im running out of space badly - my front room has enough stock to open a small hmv. to be honest i feel its out of control but i cant think about stopping.

    i guess i need help, but this isnt the place for that i guess.
     
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    This was me but i have since been cured, well pretty much lost interest in collecting SBs etc so i have off loaded a few of my rarer titles for some very good money over the past month. Before SBs became more mainstream, which is what they are now imo, it was great tracking down a SB for the artwork, rarity etc and i kept most of mine sealed (which is why i have recently got some good money for them) but now it seems that there are just too many in which to keep up so i now just buy the movie i want and if it has a SB then i will go for that if not then i wont. I would no longer keep them sealed and no longer go after one just for the artwork. No more double or treble dipping ofr me either now.

    I am going to offload a few more over the coming weeks and really trim the collection down, but i am no longer OCD or care about small scratches, small dents etc - it was all getting too much and too stressful for a tin case :D
     
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    My interest in collecting SB has actually gone up as I realized how difficult it can be to sell Amarays.

    My Speed Racer with slip sold for just 1.95 quid. If it was a Steelbook, I am sure it could have sold for 10 quid. This way I can at least watch the movie and confidently resell it without losing much. With Amarays, it has become a tough sell.
     
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    :eek: Thats crazy. I didnt know any of this till now.

    I can understand it to a point but when youre depriving yourself of stuff to buy things thats just another thing altogether.

    Just buy the steels of the films you really like.
     
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    @replicant81, on the bright side at least with this addiction you'll get your money back when you decide enough is enough. Seriously though you need to get over the idea that you have to collect them all. Collections are personal especially when it comes to movies, the whole point is to be selective andthen when people look through them they go "wow you've got an awesome taste in movies!" or "why do you own this peice of crap? haha!"
     
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    Don't get in to collecting hot toys/sideshow statues, At £150 to £500 plus and how fast they are coming out only a euro millions win will do if you want complete sets :(
     
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    Seriously, without wishing to sound overly harsh, that is tragic.
     
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    i know but im used to it. its not even that hard to do - in one week you budget for 14 meals.

    ill have maybe half of those as microwave meals = £7
    ill have pizza twice = £3
    sausages in buns twice = £1.50
    burgers in buns twice = £1.50
    chicken and chips once = £2

    total is £15 then add on milk, coffee, sugar, loo roll etc = £5 per week.

    i do mix it up but thats an average week.

    im going abroad soon for my brothers wedding - im taking 300 euros and i will probably have to spend it all on food that i could live on for 2 months at home, but there you go lol. also thinking about how many steelbooks that cuts out is bad.
     
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    ive been there with star wars and marvel busts about 5 years ago - ended up selling them because i had to move back to my mums and had no space, but yeah they werent cheap. if i had kept it up i may have not bothered about steelbooks.
     
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    i know i really need to - but having every one of them and not knowing anyone else that has all dvd and bluray steels released in the uk, makes it the worlds biggest by default. so with that in my mind, its almost like i have to keep it going - but i know it probably needs to stop one day.
     
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    Until 4k movies become the norm in a few years then you will need to start over again ;)
     
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    i dont want to think about it. i dont think they will re-release much anyway and i hope they wont be doing steelbook releases haha.
     
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    That is another reason why i got rid of some of mine whilst i can. A few years ago some DVD titles were fetching serious money but with the advent of Blu they plummeted. I am sure the same will be said of BD SBs once the next big thing is thrust upon us - probably a few years yet though :)
     
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    This is always in the back of my mind. After hundreds of DVD's i'm trying to limit my BR collection to just 100 ish eventually.

    Probably got 30-40 odd Steelbooks. Been away from the game for a couple of years and now they're everywhere. Good that they can be had on the cheap sometimes so you're not shelling out much more over the cost of the Amaray though.

    Seems like every other film is getting a SB release now days so hard to keep up. Definately only adding if it's a really good movie now (eg Jaws).

    I also don't have a fixed residence at the mo, nore my own TV so I have to make do watching films on lowly 32" LCD's:( Definately helps if you want to cut back on BR purchases!

    On balance, I wish the SB's would have remained how it was a few years back with just a select number out but times change and all that.
     
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    Blu-ray will be round for ages yet, my local HMV only has a small selection compared to DVDs. Many people I know don't own and not currently interested in buying a blu-ray player so there's a massive section of the public who still need convincing to part with their money. By the time they have been convinced we'll be well on track for HD streaming whatever/whenever you want, so they'll be no need for another physical format. Blu-ray been around for what, 6 years now? I reckon it'll be at least another 6 before people start losing interest in it.
     
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    I have a pretty big collection of films and I do like to have my favourites in a "special" format (digibook, criterion, steelbook etc) so will double-dip in those cases.

    I have to admit that the recent spate of cheap steelbooks has tempted me to re-buy titles that I just like, rather than consider favourites, but at a tenner a time I can think of much worse things to waste my money on.
    Their value to me has nothing to do with how much I can sell them for.
     
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