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Relisys RLT1720 Review

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs Forum' started by Matt Horne, Jul 8, 2003.

  1. Matt Horne

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    Hi..

    I have pulled one of my posts from my other LCD thread so that all relisys questions/info canbe kept in one place.

    I picked up screen on Monday and have just had the chance to set it up in the living room to give it the once over.

    From the Demo time with it I had on Monday we tested the following :

    Gamecube with and without Progscan (it does not support it!) via Component cables
    DVD via my cube (Panasonic Q) using s-video
    And just now Component DVD via my arcam DV88+.

    Heres a few more points from the earlier thread :

    1. It has no zoom mode (only 4:3 / 16:9) so u would be stuffed with non-anamorphic films

    2. It has seperate settings for each input.. but I played quickly with the brightness/contrast etc etc and did not really see a huge variation between the low and high settings (though it was a damn good piccy in the first place. (I have just used the THX optimode on the 2nd SW movie.. again its not as bright as a CRT so when using the THX symbol to set brightness whatever I did would not show the symbol in the middle. I could only see 4 out of the 7 grayscales shown on screen)

    3. Component looked stunning - S-video was a bit softer.. but also looked great.. I'll be able to compare better once I get a s-video lead so I can play games via s-video and component

    4. As previously mentioned it does not support progscan.. I basically got a double image when I tried to pass it PS from my cube.

    5. Sound is very good considering the size of the speakers.. I was happily watching star wars/ blade sitting across the room and so easily be adaquate for the bedroom.. even when I headed to max volume it did not seem to be too tinny or bass light (you can adjust the bass/treble and balance in the settings)

    6. Connections on the back include RF/s-video/component/composite ins - vga and 2 sets of stereo phonos (one for each AV Input) along with a phone in (from a sound card for example)

    7. I quickly saw it operating in PC mode and it looked crisp and clear.. from a quick glance at the manual.. if you used lower res's from your PC then it would scale it up to fit the screen automatically. (i.e like 640/480 from a DC)

    8. Remote is simple and works - no issues there

    It comes with a 3 year warranty as standard.. I have not tried the tuner at all as my house is sky only..The picture from the Arcam is gorgeous though you notice the less then black blacks when the lights are out totally. Colours are bright and crisp.. geometry is of course perfect and the build quality of the panel itself is very nice and hefty (it weighs about 6.5 kg) with good quality plastics.

    The screen can be tilted 5 degrees forward and 25 back.

    I include a couple of photos of it on my stand to give the idea of size and look. I did try to take pictures whilst a movie was playing but it did not work at all on my palm.

    Any questions please ask away!

    Oh cost wise.. I got mine for just under £500 (I did not mind paying extra as I had the chance to demo it locally and check of course for dead pixels before buying :) ). Though it can be found for about £450 delivered on the web.

    Matt
     

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    Another Piccie
     

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    Further points.. when using for video games (all mine are NTSC) it displayed no blurring what so ever.. I was testing it with the new Zelda and Metriod Prime along with Bloody Roar.

    Also it handles PAL/NTSC DVD's with no problems.

    Cheers

    Matt
     
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    What is the viewing angle like. Some LCD are appauling if you view them to high or two low HAve you tried looking at it from high and low and right and left etc?
     
  5. Matt Horne

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    Hi..

    Yes I have tried... Looking from below and above its fine..
    The angle to the sides is not as wide.. but fine for armchair viewing (its when you walk past and look back from the side that the picture disappears).

    Luckily you can tilt the monitor 5 degreess forward if you were viewing slightly below!

    Cheers

    Matt
     
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    Hmm...think I can see myself getting one of these - just need to find somewhere local that has one in that I can have a look at. It seems to fit the bill precisely as to what I am looking for and the price is v nice.

    Did it have teletext in the end? They say it does on their website.

    Cheers for the review tho!

    Chris
     
  7. Matt Horne

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    Nope mine did not...The tuner is a seperate module which is fitted onto the TV.. I heard it would be the end of the month for teletext tuners to be on the streets.

    Cheers

    Matt
     
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    Can anyone post links as to where this can be bought online as I see one on ebay but its already at 470 +pp
     
  9. Matt Horne

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    dabs.com have them.. also if u check my other thread first time LCD tv there were a couple of links for it.. I bought it from av-sale.com (one of the forum sponsors) though there website price is now wrong.. its £496 inc vat and delivery.

    Very very pleased with it.. been watching movies and playing games all weekend!

    Also tried out the PC connectivity.. my laptop would only output 1084 by 768 and the screen nicely scaled it to fit.

    Its a very well built screen which does not feel flimsy or delicate.. well worth the money esp with a 3 yr guarantee included as standard.

    Cheers

    Matt
     
  10. Matt Horne

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    OUCH. stay away from the bay.. just seen one of the auctions for this monitor ending at £510 excl VAT..ppl must be completely crazy!

    Just search on google and you will find much better prices!!!

    Matt
     
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    I have also just bought one of these from Dabs and I am very happy with it. But I do have a coluple of questions.

    Does anyone know how to rearange the channel ordering, at the moment I have got BBC1 on channel 35 and I would like it on channel 1?

    secondly, does anyone know where I have get a cheap VESA wall mount?

    Cheers

    Ben
     
  12. Matt Horne

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    I have played very quickly with the tuner.. though I do not have a decent ariel so its only really for DVD/videogames.

    Its like having one of the old TV's again.. Have u tried the tech support at relisys (you get a login once u have registered the screen).

    I have been looking for vesa wall mounts.. could not find much for under £100.

    Cheers

    Matt
     
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    I have just bought a VESA mount from NEXNIX, for about £60, being delivered tomorrow so I can give you all my thoughts.

    regards

    ben
     
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    Please note DABS have now reduced the price of this set to £438.27total (includes VAT and delivery). I have decided to buy it now as Im not really bothered by teletext.

    Bargain !
     
  15. Matt Horne

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    :eek: Clearly I am too impatient!

    Let us know what u think when u get it !

    Cheers

    Matt
     
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    Got mine last night at dabs - tho I spent an hour or so trawling for etailers as I never came back to check for answers to my queery - fool that I am
     
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    Can it take RGB from a freeview box in via the VGA socket?

    Otherwise I'll have to get a new box with S-video out or use Composite.
     
  18. Matt Horne

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    Nope don't think so..its a normal VGA socket (hence the RGB to vga convertors wil not work -- like u use with Plasmas).. you would have to convert it to either component/s-video or composite.

    Matt
     
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    Ok that's a shame.

    Thought of another question now :)

    How far away from the screen do you sit?

    Mine if I get it (still checking on teletext availability) will be replacing a 42in RPTV, in comparison to which it will be teeny. As it's a secondary TV that's not the point but how far away do think the maximimum viewing disatance is. I don't really want to have to rearrange everything to watch TV.
     
  20. Matt Horne

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    Mines in my bedroom on top of a chest of drawers.. so about length of a double bed + 1-2 feet away?

    Works fine for me :)

    MAtt
     
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    Any more info on the performance when connected to pc.

    I'm after a screen to be used as a tv half the time and as a pc monitor the other half and yes I will be playing games. So do you think I'll be better off with this or a regular TFT monitor? What is the difference between this and a PC TFT monitor?

    Sorry if my questions are stupid but I'm a bit of a newbie in the world of lcds.
     
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    Also forgot to ask, does anyone know of anywhere apart from AV-sales where there are display models so I can check it out myself?

    And what is the height and width of the actual screen?
     
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    Hi PG,

    Well, looking on the Relisys website, there appears to be a fair number of stockists of this TV around the country. Have a look and see where your nearest one is located.

    Steve
     
  24. Matt Horne

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    Well this is a regular PC monitor which happens to have a tv tuner/ and sockets and a very fast response rate.

    A normal PC monitor probably would not be as fast (though it depends on what u buy) and so videogames would appear to smear when playing fast moving games (like metriod prime / zelda on the cube for example).

    It performs as any other lcd monitor does.. and scales whatever resolution you are using up to fill the screen.

    It also has Picture in picture though I have not tested this yet.

    Size wise.. visible screen 14.5" by 9" (roughly) 17" diagonal.

    Matt
     
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    cheers for the info mate

    is it true then that all lcd tv's are actually pc monitors with tv tuners or just in this particular case?
     
  26. Matt Horne

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    No not really..

    The actually LCD screens are the same (i believe) it will be things like resopne time, viewing angle, contrast and brightness which will normally better in one built for using as a TV as well.

    But for example sharp LCD Tv's are only vga resolution and do not include a vga socket at all as they are built only to be used a Tv's and not monitors at all.

    HTH

    Matt
     
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    A lot of the panels are made by LG/Philips.
    You'll notice from the site that some sizes are in the TV section but not the Monitor bit and look at the aspect ratios.
    They're not quite what I was expecting.
     
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    Just noticed that EBuyer are doing the silver RLT1720 for £413.60 inc. VAT and the black version for £13 more. Only have 5 of each in stock though so be quick if you want one!
     
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    if i watch a non-widescreen video on this screen will it be distorted or will it look ok?

    thanks

    matt
     
  30. Matt Horne

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    If u are watching 4:3 then either watch it with black bars either side.. or stretched wide. There is no smart or zoom mode only 4:3 or 16:9

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