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REL Storm 5 or a B&W PV1 bass ball? Which one?

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by MJeeves, Dec 13, 2004.

  1. MJeeves

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    Hi,

    My 10 year old REL Stadium sub has packed-up and I want to get another "musical" subwoofer for both movies and music (mainly music!). I like REL and I'm interested in their new "remote controlled" sub, the Storm 5. But I'm also hearing good things about the B&W PV1 bass ball. Which one is the best for a musical and tight bass reproduction in a corner of a 12 by 14 room. Any other suggestions? I have £1000 max.

    Thanks,

    M.J.
     
  2. MJeeves

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    Anyone?
     
  3. Pat Marcus

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    My Dealer reckons it is the best sub in the £1000 bracket of the sub-producing brands that he sells (Quad, Martin Logan, Wharfedale, REL, M&K, B&W, KEF, Canton, Ruark, Dynaudio etc etc)
    In fact, he thinks it's so good, he prefers it in some ways to the 850 he sold me.
     
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    In case it wasnt obvious, Im talking about the PV1
     
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    I can only assume he was talking about the appearance of the PV1. I spoke to B&W a few months ago about a PV1 / ASW750 comparison and was told the PV1 is good, but not that good. I don't think you could even think about comparing the bowling ball to an ASW850.
    I must try and get a listen to the PV1 myself some day.
     
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    Try and pick up a B&W 750 2nd hand or x-demo.

    The SVS PC Ultra is great with music, don't know if you want a big ugly thing like that in your room though. There is a box sub with ultra driver due out soon, that should be within your budget.
     
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    Not sure about music but the PV1 imo is not very good with movies for a £1000 subwoofer. This is based on a 5 minute listening session but it was enough to convince me that for movies it was a non starter.

    For £1000 I would consider subs like the PC Ultra, ASW750 etc. Sometimes you just have to ignore dealers !
     
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    I have heard the pv1 and would put it amongst good £500 subs.
    It was actually better than i expected, although i too have not heard it for music.

    Remember the £1000 you pay is mostly for unique styling (my dealer said it was his best selling sub by a mile).

    I bet B&W bring out a huge version with maybe 12 or 15" drivers which will compete with asw750, i am sure it has class d 1000w amp as well.
    Also beware i heard they had a problem with the black finish cracking, due to it's shape.
     
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    The PV1 was better than I thought it would be as well although it was an absolute pig to intergrate into my lounge. I had to give it back though.
     
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    I would of thought the Rel Storm 5 would of been a better choice as they are always easier to intergrate and also it has both High & Low Level connections, seeing that music is more you're concern.. :)

    John
     
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    It's actually a 500w amp :confused:
     
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    Agree with that, and also the PCU if you don't mind looks. I've always been immensely impressed with the B+W 700 series subs (and the 800 series of course :D ), very tight, tuneful bass with plenty of impact and power.
     
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    I have to agree with Rags and Daneel. I listened to the PV1 extensively at two different dealers and came away with the same conclusion each time. It was okay, but in my opinion it couldn't come close to a 750 and an 850 :confused: Your dealer must be joking!! In short if you're a bass-holic like most of us on this forum I doubt the PV1 will satisfy. However if you want a lifestyle product its gorgeous.
     
  14. MJeeves

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    How much are the B&W 750 and 850's? Any info on the web about them?
    Would you rate them better than the REL subs? Can you adjust them like the ABC on the REL's?

    Thanks, M.
     
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    The B&W 750 has a RRP of £1,200 and the 850 of £2,000 so they are both above your limit at RRP.

    If your requiremement was primarily movies I would say that the B&W hits harder and deeper than the equivalently priced REL but as your requirement is primarily music I think that you may appreciate the speed and agility of the REL as well as it's superior connectivity for maximum integration with any system.

    At that price you really need to listen to both and make your own mind up
     
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    I sold my ASW750 a few weeks ago for only £825, so if you look around or wait a while you may be able to pick one up dirt cheap second hand.
    It's certainly an excellent sub.
     
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    Stonedragon - ok ok. The dealer only said he preferred it in some ways to the 850. Overall, its not comparable to the bigger nautilus beast. I`m not changing mine for anything - Im very happy with it.
    Re: the ASW750, if you can stretch to it, do so ! A truly great value sub
     
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    I'm afraid I'm repeating myself but thought you might like to know... I picked up a brand new Storm 5 this weekend to trail at home. The remote control feature is so useful I don't how I'd manage without it now! The sub is incredible and blends seemlessly and subtly with music adding depth and a true dimension that makes eveything sound very flat when you click the sub onto to standby with the remote. I'm very impressed with this sub and it really does do exactly what Rel claim.

    My room is 26ft x 12ft and it fills the room with deep, controlled tuneful bass. You can actually hear the notes moving up and down the scale rather than just hearing thuddy booms you get with some subs. Hope this helps.

    I have to take it back sometime this morning, I only hope if I order one I can get it before New Year!
     
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    How did you have it set up? I've ordered one for early Jan delivery. :thumbsup:
     
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    I've just this minute ordered mine in cherry. I'm not expecting them to have one in stock at Rel so will probably have to wait until sometime January. Oh well, at least I've something to look forward to.
     

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