recommendations for a projector and DVD player

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  1. nunew33

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    I belong to a film society that has been given the opportunity to bid for new digital equipment using lottery funding.

    We currently have an antiquated "business projector" and a first generation DVD Player.

    Ive suggested we bid for funding for a new projector and DVD player.

    The only projectors I know about are the current entry level projectors eg Z1 and 2 and panny ae series.

    We intend to bid for between £1500 to £2000 and contribute up to a £1000 ourselves for the projector and up to £200 for a DVD player.

    So the parameters are:
    Must be LCD (cant risk DLP rainbows affecting anyone)
    Must project a goodimage to 12 foot width
    Throw distance isnt an issue
    Must be resilient to constant movement (we dont owna premisis and intend to exploit our mobility by starting a newsociety nearby)
    Budget between £2000 and £3000

    Im guessing we need high lumens and high contrast ratio, but would appreciate any advice or experience from anyone whose used projectors for public viewing.

    Would alse be open to DVD player suggestions?

    Am assuming that a minimum both would have componant. and hopefully prog scan with given budget. Once again any advice would be gratefully recieved if there is something else I havent thought of.
     
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    The most obvious choice to me would be the Sony VW12HT which can now be had for about 2500 quid.

    As for the player, the Sony 930 gets good reviews with progressive scan.
     
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    Thanks calscot. Just checked on UK pricerunner. This is in the right ball park.

    Just seen Sony HS20 in the same price bracket and seems to offer higher lumens, quieter fan, same resolution but more importanytly its lighter (remember it has to be mobile) and cheaper.

    Can anyone tell me if there is something fundamentally different between these two models and wether there is another manufacturer that should be considered
     
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    I wouldnt worry about progressive dvd players etc. if you are trying to shoot a 12ft image. Spend all the money you can on the brightest unit you can get for your £3k and keep the old player.
    The sony HS20 is claimed to be around 1400 lumens and the real world figure comes down to about half that.

    Lets say it was not tweaked for contrast and more for brightness and was giving out 900 lumens on a new bulb.

    on your 12ft screen that is only 8.33 ft Lamberts of brightness.

    If you chose a 3000 lumen DLP PJ that also may come out losing say a 1/4 of its marketed brightness, you would come out with around 20.8 ft Lamberts of brightness, and even if you again lost a 1/3 of the marketed contrast ratio you would still have a better contrast than the sony units.

    I would go for somthing that is nice and bright, with a reasonable contrast ratio.

    http://www.shootandshow.co.uk/plus-u5-232.htm

    And I would do the calculations before you buy, that is a very big screen

    Real world ansi lumens output x screen gain / (screen width (ft) x screen Height (ft) ) = brightness

    And I would not let that figure drop below 12.

    I wouldnt worry about the dlp too much, how far back are people sitting from the screen ??
     
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    what about a sanyo plv70? I dont know if you can get on for the money you are talking but given it is now an old model you never know. It is a high end ecd design, native 16:9 and was very much competition for the high end sony's. What really is good for you is that it is a light cannon if ever there was one...... enormous light output, ideal for a large screen

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  6. nunew33

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    This is what we have currently
    http://www.projectorcentral.com/Liesegang-dv_295.htm

    700 ansi lumens and we showed Moulin Rouge on it last year 12foot using composite input on a 1st gen dvd player!! Most of you would have left the auditorium in disgust at the 6 inch dust blobs, graininess, lack of contrast!!!!!

    I will look at both those models. Thanks Buns and Gizlaroc.
     
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    or you could be crazy....... stack some more budget models....

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    No, needs to be easy to set up and take down.

    PLV 70 is going to be pushing it. There is £250,000 lottery funding for Northwest Film groups to bid for new "digital equipment".
    We were thinking £3500 wouldnt be too greedy for Proj, DVD player, DD amp, speakers and cables.

    Before anyone thinks this is there route to a new home installation you need to prove you have a society with members etc.
     
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    I'll have a look about for the plv70..... i havent seen or heard much of it in the UK, but in the US it is way within your budget..... will report back!

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    The NEC LT260K has 2400 lumens and 1400:1 contrast ratio but is DLP. But that means it's very light and portable. It's recommended by projector central.

    1024x768 resolution it comes in at £2245 on www.dealtime.co.uk.

    12ft is a big screen and needs 4 times the lumen output for a 6ft one.
     
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    The HS20 does seem a better solution than the VW12 with higher lumens and cr. The VW12 used to be 6 grand and so the build quality might be better. It had 1000:1 cr which used to be great for LCD till the latest generation of pjs. I somehow thought it had a bit more lumen output.
     
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    After reading a bit of projector central Sanyo does seem like the best for your needs. Dealtime show it at £3100.

    Projector central recommend at least a 10ft screen to take advantage of it's power, so seems ideal. It says the image quality is brilliant...
     
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    Thanks for your feedback guys

    Ive recommended The HS20 as the cheap option and the Sanyo as the preferred option to the committee. Ill leave it up to them.

    The way i see it is even a £1K Z2 wipes the floor with the Liesegang we have!!! But if the society grows we may not have the luxury of light control that we have now so I suppose Its worth pushing the case of the sanyo
     
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    3dsolutions.co.uk come very close to £3k for the sanyo...... international AV (yes an american company but specialise in export) would be somewhat less prior to import vat and duties. I kind of assumed that that wouldnt be to your liking though

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    Well the bid only asks to specify kit and price, not where we get it from.

    Ive gone for the cheapest price on UK pricerunner
     
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    "cost for the SANYO PLV70HT is $4458 + $65 (transport & Insurance)
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    the UK"

    official quote from IAVI, assume 20% import costs giving $5400 which is basically £3k...... so no benefit really in import

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    Thanks for all the help.

    5 month on we won the grant based on a bid for the Sony HS20. Now £500 cheaper than 5 months ago, if only we had gone for the Sanyo!!!

    Still, at least we are wode screen and progresive!
     

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