recommendation - home cinema (ntl cable and xbox)

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  1. 45six

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    Hi.
    I have an NTL cable tv box (scart output)
    and an Xbox which I use for playing dvds.

    I'd like replace my tv with a projector, which has a scart socket for both. (see remote control requirement below)

    My budget is under £1000 including cables / adaptors.

    Main requirement, is that the projector has inputs to allow both to be connected,
    and switched via remote contol.
    I have a Harmony remote which allows me to control devices in relation to activities.
    The NTL box stays on 24/7 so I don't think a scart splitter would work.
    I believe I have the option of Svideo out from the Xbox advanced output cable.

    I've so far looked at the InFocus X1/X2/4805,
    which from spec I would be happy with if I can hook my cable and xbox up.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.
     
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    hook your xbox to proj via component leads, you just need the HDTV xbox kit to be able to do so.

    i use that setup on my panny 300
     
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    Cheers, I have the advance MS Xbox lead (for optical audio).
    http://images.simply.co.uk/cnetimages/I110305.jpg
    Can't remember if that has component phono sockets on the side or not.

    Does the Pany have multiple inputs ?

    My main concern is about being able to leave both NTL cable box,
    and the Xbox permanently connected to the projector.
    Then controlling the projector power and input channel via my universal remote.
     
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    you need the HDTV xbox kit, the advanced one is not the same thing. They are about 30 quid (official ones)

    i know there are 3rd party ones, but a friend of mine bought one, and it did not have optical out on it, so be careful.

    the panny 300 has both scart and component yes, i do what you do, both xbox and tv plugged in at same time m8
     
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    Can't see the HD cable listed on the official site:
    http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/hardware/catalog.htm

    Can't find any UK stockists via google / kelkoo of the official one.
    Any ideas please ?

    Now I just need to convert the NTL output from scart,
    I believe it also has RGB option output, is that a standard scart to RGB lead then?

    And, find a pj that has two sets of RGB / Svideo inputs.
    The Pany AE500 has Scart and Component, shame it's a little more than I want to spend.
    A friend of my mum, works for Pany, sadly staff price is still more than they sell for on the internet !!!

    Having read the pdf reviews of the InFocus X1 and 4800 on this site,
    I've scratched them from the list as the inputs on the back just aren't home cinema suitable.
     
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    i got my official one from another world (forbidden plannet)

    gamester do one too, high definition pack

    try and get a panny 300?

    why do you need two scarts?

    convert ntl?
     
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    If I went for the Pany, it has a Scart socket and Component jacks,
    so I could use scart to scart for the NTL to the pj,
    and use the HD Xbox cable to the component inputs on the pj.

    What I was wondering, was if it would be easier to get a scart to component cable for the NTL,
    and keep the existing Scart cable I have for the Xbox.
     
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    to be honest, tv wont looks fantastic as it actually sends a decent signal out in the first place, and i doubt ntl's picture can be made to look ace converting it

    however, the xbox does look much better through component than on scart

    thats my opinion of the way to go
     
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    I'm starting to think I should just look to upgrade my tv instead.
    I like the look of that Pany 36" widescreen and that's got all the inputs I need.
    4 scart, component etc etc
    It's around the same price as the projector too, would need far less setup and not have the 4000 hour lamp expense.
     
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    Are you going to sit this PJ on a coffee table or something? If you are going to ceiling mount it you need to do a single cable connection if possible, to avoid expressions of disgust from 1/2 the human race, the 1/2 I like to spend the twilight hours with. A component conversion for NTL is perfectly viable, and you could just scart the X-box to the vcr socket on NTL, and scart into component converter and then to the PJ. If it's easy to reach then no need for a converter, just scart all the way, but we find RGB scart is not at it's best on the end of a long cable typical of a PJ ceiling mount. If it's a long run convert it, of course you will need an 'advanced' video kit for x-box, this is RGB I presume.
     
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    I was intending to put a bookshelf type unit at the rear of the room,
    with the projector on the top, and the cable box and xbox underneath,
    which would hide the cables,
    aside from the 5.1 speaker cables then running back round to the wall where the screen would be.

    The problem with this though, is I'd then be sitting in front of everything I wanted to remote control,
    xbox controllers etc would have to arrive from behind seating etc.

    The more I think about this, the more I think new tv.

    When's that new Intel chip due out that's supposed to revolutionise LCD / Plasma technology and bring the prices crashing down !??
     
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    There's no problem with any of this, given a budget. Controlling NTL requires forethought, you can't pass NTL infra red through all IR repeaters. Best to stick it all behind closed doors and use a repeater system though, then it could be sensational.
    BTW there's always a new product going to revolutionize xxxx and bring prices crashing down. A decent cinema projector will always cost a reasonably large amount of money, the LCD panel you could buy for a nominal sum, it's the rest that costs.
     
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