Hello, After I recently found out that my Sony NWA-3000 doesn't allow me to take music back from it to my PC's hard drive, and in addition to the myriad of other problems that this player suffers, I've decided that I need a new MP3 player. It needs to meet the following criteria, in order of priority: Easy to use, liberal software that allows me to take music back off of my player when I need it and isn't tied down by infuriating digital rights complications. A player which is recognised as a universal mass storage device in Windows would be ideal. Allows you to make and edits play lists easily and on the go, with no beeps, song caps or much fussing about, just "add to playlist", "save" and "name". 20 GB storage capacity or more. High volume and good sound quality. No more than £150. Recognised by an Xbox 360 (this isn't essential but would be very nice). Video playback, colour screens, photos and all the rest of it would of course be nice, as long as they don't hugely affect the price or affect the performance of the player -- I'm in it for the music only thanks. At the moment, the Creative Zen Vision:M seems to be a good candidate as I'm pretty certain it reaches all of the above. I was going to go for the 30GB iPod Video until I realised you can't take music back off of it, and unless this is easily modified with a third-party program, I'm not interested. Thanks for you time .