Recommend a camera for sight seeing/ pub going

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  1. stevos

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    Hopefully looking to go to Tallinn for my birthday with some friends. It will probably be a fairly normal extended weekend with day time sight seeing and hitting the pubs on the evening.

    I am looking for a camera that can do both fairly well (doesn't need to be amazing), and so it needs to be good in low light levels and small. Useable when drunk would also be handy
     
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    i have the fuji f30 and it is great low light performer. You could consider F31 or even f40 (the new models)
     
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    Seems reasonable and not too expensive. Will hunt it down at the weekend to give it a once over.

    Any other suggestions?
     
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    For low 'pub' light you'll need a Fuji F30 or Fuji F31FD. No other compact can get close to the low light performance of these cameras.:thumbsup:
     
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    Really an echo of toxic mango's post - before I was going to buy a Nikon D40 DSLR, I was severely tempted by the Fuji F30/F31 - supposed to be the king-ding-a-ling in low lighting........do a search on youtube for a Gadget Show review of the F30/F31 that trounces the other cameras in comparison.

    For a compact point and shoot with good low light ability don't think you'll go far wrong with one of these :thumbsup:
     
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    Think there's a fairly common theme here :smashin:
     
  7. stevos

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    Not usual that everyone agrees on this forum, but as it has occured will check it out. From the first post it looks like the f30 has been replaced by the f40, will this still do the job (later models aren't always better)?
     
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    p.s. does it have an option to manually fix the focus distance. This is very useful in a pub.

    When i was in moscow a cheapo disploseable with its fixed lens produced massively better pictures. Auto focus seems to take an age in pubs especially ones with moving lights.
     
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    No, the F31FD replaced the F30 and the F40FD replaced the F20. :eek:

    The F31FD produces slightly more noise at high ISO than the F30 but its still excellent.:thumbsup:

    F31 get my vote.:cool:
     
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    Mine too and don't forget the face recognition. :smashin:
     
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    f30 for me here.. :eek:k excellent little beasty.... :thumbsup:
     
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    You need a pocketable, good lowlight camera
    There aren't that many out there :
    Fuji seems to make most of them:cool:
    Any digital noise can be removed from the images in software later: even with non-pocketable, potentially at risk ( in a pub) DSLR, you'd have to use a high ISO and get some noise
     
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    Well looks like the f31 is the camera to go for, will have a look at the weekend.
     
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    Hi,

    Time to actually buy the camera (today or tomorrow at the latest).

    I have looked at the fuji f31 and f40 online and they both seem very good camera's on paper but seem a bit big.

    Are there any smaller camera's (fit in jeans pocket hopefully) out there that can do a similar job?
     
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    I'm in the same boat as you, after speaking to people on this forum and browsing the web I was just about to purchase the F31FD, until I went down to Boots this weekend and played with the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-W55.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Cyber-...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1183363849&sr=8-1

    Now I'm torn, as I found the DSC-W55 lovely to operate and from what I could tell the images I took in the shop seemed to be pretty sharp (but this was only from the LCD so not an accurate test). Unfortunately they didn't have the F31FD and the F40 they had either had no battery or was not charged, so I was unable to test these. The W55 seems to get pretty good reviews although from browsing the web I'm doubtful that the low light shots would be as good as the F31FD.

    It's a gift for someone and the other reason I'm torn is the size (I know image quality should be the top priority), as the Sony is a lovely size where as the F31FD is slightly bigger. It would only be used as a point and shoot/fun camera - the person I'm buying it for isn't after anything complicated and , I think the W55 would give more of a first impression than the F31FD

    Anyone else any feedback on the Sony W55?
     
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    Have you looked at the Fuji F20 at Argos? Its only £79. Quality is about the same as the dearer F31FD. I have the F31 and got my sister the F20 and you really cant tell what camera took what in auto mode.
    I agree though that the Fuji's aren't the smallest or sleekest camera's.
    The Fuji's get good write ups for indoor low light shots but ive not seen any pocket camera's produce good results in low light used in auto mode.
     
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    Have a look at the Panasonic FX30.
     
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    Any thoughts on the Pentax Optio A30, it was recommended as an alterative to the f31 by my local jossop store.

    Its a little bit smaller, looks nice and has image stabilisation (i do tend to have slightly shaky hands so this could be a plus).

    However it seemst to have fairly mixed reviews.
     
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    The next edition of Digital Camera Buyer (July 12th) is reviewing super-slim compacts for the summer hols.
     
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    Probably leaving it a bit late. I am flying on the 25th July and will probably go for mail order.

    Its looking more and more like the f31fd. It's a bit big but at least it gets consistantly good reviews.
     
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    I have the F30 and I thought that was very small.... but time for a change. I keep changing my mind all the time on what to buy. But I have just read over 50 threads on DP Review on the TZ3 and seen easy over 100 pics taken by various people from beginner's to pro's.... even some inside a cruise ship.

    At last I think I have been won over, I can see now why this camera is shifting like hot cakes. But I will still hang fire to see what Panny announce this month with their new range.... and not just the FX100 by all accounts.
     
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    watch out for any that have PP done to them
    makes all the difference.
     
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    Who makes the TZ3?
     
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    Used google, its panasonic.
     
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    The TZ3 looks very interesting. I have found it for around £220 on fleebay with a 2gb memory stick.

    Anyone know how pub style shots would compare with the f31?
     
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    Like I say a mixed bag of people like me (clueless) and then the pros. The ones from the likes of me where very impressive. The pro ones were just outstanding to say the least.
     
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    I understand but if they are on the web you never know what's been done to them.
    I was out last night at a gig and my mates GF had a F30 and it produced some very good shots. We were impressed and on the LCD they looked good.
    Ive not seen them on a big screen yet.
     
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    I just fancy something different... tend to change my camera once a year (a fool I know). It's the 10z zoom on the TZ3 that's grabbing my attention. Would come in very handy when in Orlando this Sept. I had the Canon S2 IS before the F30 and it was just too bulky for me in the end. Had to find a locker at the parks to put it in every time I went on a ride, as they would not allow me on with it.

    Back @ the OP... I don't think the TZ3 would be a good pub camera for you. The F30/31 you should have no problems with. Its the natural light setting that will possibly win you over.
     
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    Being a complete camera novice this is a hard. I don't want to go the wrong way.

    What is the TZ3's problem with pub esk shots?
     
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    I am no pro by a long shot...as much as a novice as you. But I have read loads of reviews on loads of different cameras in the past 2 weeks or so. There is only one compact make that performs very well in low light conditions and that's Fuji.

    The TZ3 is not very good in low light conditions... its more of an outside on sunny/bright days camera... from what I have read so far. For a pub/club type in your pocket camera... I am sure many will agree here that the Fuji F30/F31 is the route to go down. Just go to the Fuji site and see all the awards its received. I don't think I have seen one bad review about it.

    Fuji's speciality is the low light performance. With the F31 you get face detection too, this is not present on the F30. One thing that is not a common trend with Fuji is Image Stabiliser.
     

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