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Recieved New Sony KLV-L23M1 Today

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by digisocialist, Nov 3, 2004.

  1. digisocialist

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    As the thread title states, yes the Sony WEGA 23" LCD has just arrived. I'm unable to fully test at this time as I am currently without a VCR, DVD Player or Games Console. First impressions are that it's not as good as my 20" Toshiba was. I ordered the black model which does look chic, but it's a hell of a lot bulkier than the Toshiba 20VL43P. The housing is quite deep but I can live with the compromise as I am getting a larger screen and because this was an insurance claim for my damaged Tosh, I've only paid £100 for it, so I shouldn't complain. It has far more connections than my Toshiba had and although I was very impressed with the Toshiba WOW SRS sound, the Sony virtual Dolby Surround using BBE is a very good match. It was very easy to set up and the remote was user friendly for the basic functions (having not tried anything advanced). The on screen menus are better than the Toshiba and allow you to select various pictures modes: Widescreen, 4:9, Smart etc. The bottom line however is picture and it is not as good as the 20" Toshiba which was probably the best LCD I had ever seen anyway so the benchmark has been set. Perhaps I'm being too much of a perfectionist as I don't know how comparable the WEGA is to other LCD's of a similar screen size and price. It does have good contrast and colouring, I'll give it that, but motion is not as smooth as what I have been used to. You get mild motion traces (if that makes sense) which is off putting at a close distance, though the further back from the screen the less distracting this becomes. I may be being hard on the WEGA but the promise of enhanced picture quality from the WEGA engine as denoted on Sonys website gave me high expectations. I may also need to look into various configuration options to see if this effect can be minimized. One thing that did surprise me when I pulled it out of the box was the 'High definition Ready' sticker on the casing. I can't see any obvious connections for digital inputs (DVi etc), though I don't profess to understand how that works, but this is a bonus as the Sony website mentions nothing about it being HDTV ready...

    Overall I have a sexy looking TV but am mildly dissapointed by the PQ compared to my old Tosh. Sony could have slimmed down the design a little I feel, though perhaps the size of the TV is required to accomodate the sheer number of connections it houses... I'll have to pop out at the weekend and compare to other models. This is the 1st time I have ever received a major piece of equipment 'blind' and only did so because it was replacing a damaged TV. The lesson here however is always research thoroughly to avoid any dissapointment; not that I'm entirley unhappy, rather mildly irritated by the differences mentioned.

    I'll see what the wife thinks when she gets home...

    I'd be interested to hear from other LCD owners who in all honesty have this 'motion smootheness' issue also. I suspect it's common to many LCD's the bigger the screen you get. I have noted it before when looking at various models in Dixons, Currys, Comet and alike but never experienced it close up.

    Well the WEGA is back in the box waiting until my Cinema Room is ready so I can mount it on the wall in the 'TV Zone' (opposite side of the room where my 'Big Screen Zone' and 'PC Zones' will be). For now, I'm watching a very old 14" Sony CRT which has been stuffed away in the attic, has no stand or remote and looks like it's been pulled out of a skip.... but I'll tell you this, it still beats any PJ, Plasma, LCD for PQ (even if you do need to get out a telescope to see the screen) :D
     
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    Does it have a VGA socket?

    I want the 32" version of this after seeing how good DVDs look on it.

    However, it's for an Xbox and I'd like to use my soon to be bought X2VGA with it.

    Ta.
     
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    It can probably accept HDTV signals (720p and 1080i) through its component inputs.

    I'm not sure that there is any link between LCD screen size and response time.

    I agree with you about CRT TV picture quality. I'm hoping that a digital DVD player to LCD screen in my future system will provide a bit of an edge!

    James
     
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    Rob20 - it is exactly the model you have pictured and does look sexy. I think Black is far better now that I have seen it. Silver would have loked a bit cheap with all that plastic going on.

    McGraw - I need to get it back out of the box to check for a VGA socket (I'll post later tonight as I'm just about to go and pick my kids up). In the documentation it says it's WXGA but I don't actually know what this means... so if someone can enlighten me.

    JGRG - This interests me, I'm keen to exploit HDTV if I can and understand how to. I see the Component inputs as a bonus..far more connectivity options than my old TV.

    Finally, I went out earlier, came back in and had another quick peek. I'm starting to really like it now. I think my early impression was clouded by expectation.. however the more I see it the more I'm starting to love it. If nothing else, it does look like a serious piece of kit (more than the average household has, so I shouldn't complain). I can't imagine what 32" must look like, but I would suspect impressive.

    :)
     
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    Got the TV back out of the box and no it doesn't have a VGA socket. The wife does like it though which is a good thing and thinks the picture looks brighter and more 'colouful' - this at least supports the claims of the WEGA engine. As for motion smoothness this still concerns me. Close up, as in 2 inches away it's a devil... but from 6ft away it's not really an issue.

    Still want to know more about HDTV. One thing is that I only have an S-Video lead running to the position where the TV will be wall mounted. Is it worth me forking at another ton of cash and getting a component cable to run to this position also?
     
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    Ive seen the 32" version through component and itlooks superb - try this even if it means you buy a new dvd player...
     

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