Answered Reception of foreign language TV channels in UK

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  1. Ed Addis

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    I'll start by confessing that I'm a complete beginner with satellite TV, having only used broadcast and cable to date. What I'm trying to do is to receive the Mezzo and Mezzo Live HD classical music channels, having experienced them in Madeira last week, and been very impressed. These are French language channels which, sadly, are not available from any provider in the UK, despite being available in just about every other European country and many others!

    My first question is whether anyone here already receives these channels in the UK, and if so, exactly how they go about getting them?

    It appears that the only way I can hope to get them is via satellite, so my second question is which would be the best continental provider(s) to choose, in terms of which satellites carry the channels, and are easiest to receive here, and other factors, such as whether it's possible to get a subscription with the provider, with a UK address?

    Lastly, I'm ignorant of the hardware details. What I think I will need is a suitably sized dish, the correct set-top box (how do I find out which one?), a 'conditional access module' (or is that built into the box?), and the subscription card from the provider. Does this sound right? Please let me know anything I've missed - no detail will be too trivial!

    Many thanks

    Ed
     
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    Hi Ed.
    I'd like to get Mezzo too but don't know where to get a card for it.
    You'd need a dish pointed at the appropriate satellite and a receiver.
     
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    It broadcast on 19.2e. You would need a Canal or Orange France or Movistar Spain subscription and possibly box and or CAM.

    That should give information to search the possibilities.
     
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    Mezzo is available on lots of sats, see here:
    Search Results for - KingOfSat

    If you go motorised you'll have your pick of these and be able to receive broadcast feeds too such as NT Live and Royal opera etc that get broadcast live to cinemas.
     
  6. Ed Addis

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    Thanks for the replies. Is a receiver the same as a 'box'? If so, what box do I get? Is it something that the provider give me as part of the sub? And is the CAM part of the box? Do I get a card that has to be inserted? You'll see that my ignorance of this is almost total, so please excuse the stupid questions ...
     
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    A box is just a box - with or without anything inside it!
    You need a receiver, with a card slot.
    Then the card goes into the CAM which depends on the type of card, then into the receiver.
    You buy the different parts separately in most cases.
    The first thing to do is find a supplier for the card
    If you find one let me know!
     
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    CAMs can be hardware or software. Hardware CAMs can be built into a receiver or a separate device inserted into a CI slot in the receiver. There are numerous types of CAM (for different types of encryption) and there are two varieties of CI slot (CI & CI+). You need to decide which supplier of content you want before we can advise further on your receiver and CAM requirements which with some may be very limited. You also need to decide whether or not you wish to record and if so whether you wish to be able to view another channel at the sane time - if so a twin tuner receiver, multiple output lnb (bit on arm in front of dish) and two cables from dish to receiver are needed.
     
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    You might find that some of the very cheapest / basic satellite receivers will do what you want & you just need to get a card ..to keep things very simple.

    If you like Mezzo, there is a lot more up there .. & as kevkbuk has mentioned there's also special live feeds if you had motorised & they are usually free & clear & can be very high studio quality
     
  10. Ed Addis

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    Once again, thanks for the replies. I think I realised that a box is just a box, but many people seem to refer to a receiver (?) as a box. It sounds like the receiver is a generic device, which is made specific to the provider by the CAM and card? But from davemurgatroyd2's comments there are different types which only suit some providers? I hear the argument for multiple channels, but surely all channels from a single satellite are present in the feed from the LNB to the receiver - isn't it just a two tuner receiver I would need? Lastly, we're very aware of the HD content from National Theatre, ROH, Met Opera etc - I hadn't realised it would be available to home receivers, and is it really free of charge?!?
     
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    Contact cardsplitter.pl
    They have polish prepaid card options, I think mezzo is available on 1 of there card options. If you have a smart TV with a ci+ slot, all you will need is a cyfra/nc+ cam and card as well as a 60cm dish aligned at 13 degrees east.
     
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    Cardsplitter is all in Polish but produces a No for Mezzo.
    Some content for NT ROH Met etc will be free - if you can find it at the right time and place!
    You'll need a motorised dish for that.
    Some cards do require a specific receiver.
    Most don't but need a CAM to match the card.
    As I said, begin at the beginning - find out where to get the card, and what type it is.
    Then as dm2 said go on to select a receiver.
     
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    Email cardsplitters, it an optional channel.
     
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    I don't speak Polish.:)
     
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    Never watched it, assumed its more of a classical/orchestral channel so doesn't matter what language its in. Ya don't need to understand despicito to enjoy it:confused:
     
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    It's cardsplitter that Polish!
    Mezzo's language doesn't matter.
     
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    Fortunately these live events are broadcast to cinemas for paying viewers so are heavily advertised... Normally the feeds are tested in the days or hours before the broadcast and are readily reported online, though quite often they appear on the same sat/TPs each time.
     
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    Thanks for replies. I've emailed cardsplitter, so we'll see what they say. With greatest respect, could you please try to avoid jargon/acronyms as I really don't know much about this and don't understand anything 'satellite techy'!

    I get the point that I need to find a provider and a card before I can identify receiver etc. Trying to find a way to contact Movistar atm. My daughter lives in Spain and has a sub, but I'm not sure she has those channels. Why do all these companies make it so hard to contact them?

    Regarding NT, ROH, Met content, I guess it's only present when the live broadcasts to cinemas are coming up, and I suppose I could find it online, but really? - is it really free? You'd think they'd be worried about losing paying customers in the cinemas! Also, why would I need a motorised dish - couldn't I just use one of these multi LNB setups?
     
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    They speak English.
     
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    The web site is entirely Polish but no doubt you're right.

    I've never seen an ad for a showing but again no doubt you're right.

    The companies don't expect foreign customers so don't cater for them.

    Yes a multi satellite could be good but a motorised would be better.
     
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    Most providers target their domestic audiences only. You could always ask your daughter to obtain the subscription and send you the viewing card etc...

    No, most people are ignorant to what is available...

    You could, but they are very limiting in the number of lnbs per dish and how strong those sats are. With a motorised dish you can move it around to whatever sat you want. See Pedro2000UKs site at www.purplesat.com
     
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    You're obviously not in their target audience :D
     
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    I have used them for several cards over the years and had to e-mail several times, each time I got a reply in English.
     
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    It wouldn't work the other way round.:(
     
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    Why?
     
  26. Ed Addis

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    Presumably because the staff at an English language website wouldn't be able to speak Polish - or any other language but English for that matter. We really are pathetic here ...
     
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    That's a rather out dated view to hold. :D
     
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    Oh God. PC strikes.:rotfl:
    But it's true. If we can't speak their language, we shout louder.:facepalm:
     
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    Outdated to deplore and be embarrassed by our poor language skills in the UK?
     
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    Have you got a smart TV? Does it have a satellite tuner built in? Check you instruction manual and check to see if it has a ci+(common interface plus socket/port)if it does you won't need an external satellite reciever
     
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    Languages are interesting but there's no reason for anyone in the UK who does not need to to learn one.:cool:
     
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