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Receiver for a Gaming setup

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by sjallen, Oct 16, 2003.

  1. sjallen

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    I'm a very keen gamer (and watch the odd movie too). I had thought about a starting small with an initial home cinema rig (i'm 21 with a 14" telly :)) but I've decided a better route would be to save up £3grand and blow the lot on stuff that will last a while. I'm pretty much set on a 32" Plasma (the Hitachi is the one I'm keen on). This is irrelevant to this forum I know.

    Soooo... I need a bit of advice on this receiver thing. What exactly are they? Are they worth the cash? What are the chances of getting a nice entry level one and some nice speakers for £500 (the plasma will cost £2500ish). I'm sorry for being such a newbie, it's just I can't find, in laypersons terms, a description of what the actual benefits are.

    Could anyone point me towards some nice package deals, maybe? I'd really appreciate the help.

    Steev

    Are they useful with consoles or should I be looking at something else?
     
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    I think you should have a good long think about that 32" plasma. Don't think it's big enough, especially for the money.

    A receiver is a one box solution. Covering amp, processor and tuner. Plug everything into it, consoles, dvd player and out comes cables to your speakers.

    You could get a cracking projector producing a 7/8 ft image or a 42" plasma for the 2.5k you're spending. I bought a 28" a few years back and regretted it almost straight away.

    I have my xbox & GC linked to my 28" tv, a projector and a receiver & obviously 5.1 speakers.

    I use the 28" tv for casual playing and the projector with 7ft screen for longer sessions. The XBOX outputs 5.1 sound so it sounds absolutely incredible. GC & PS2 isn't as good but the experience is still fun.

    My recommendation...

    £1.5K on projector, screen & cables... Sanyo Z1, Panny AE200?
    £500 on receiver...Denon 2803
    £1k on 5 speakers & a sub.

    use your 14" tv for casual gaming :D
     
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    I full understand what you say about a projector, and It will be nice when I get my cushy computer science type job on some crazy salary, with a nice house with a decent amount of space. At the moment however I have none of these, just random disposable cash that I want to blow on an AV setup (that is preferably fairly easily transportable. I need a flat screen really, both my room at home and at uni are big but narrow and projector unfriendly. I'd go for a 37" plasma if they were more common but the 32" Hitachi is the right price (well as right a price as a plasma can be) and has lots of inputs and things.

    Cheers for the heads up on the receiver... I see what they are now :). Is that Denon a mid range type one or cheap or what? And I nearly fainted when you said £1k on speakers :D

    Thanks, in one post you've opened my eyes a fair bit. Going to John Lewis tomorrow to look at AV stuff in the flesh in a non Dixons group environment.
     
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    Be careful with plasma and gaming, if u play for long periods u could damage the screen.
    Id recommend a pioneer amp as they are amoug the best right now. Also go for mission speakers of the 77 series

    For front use 773e, 77c for centre and 77ds, for rears. and shop on the internet to save cash Package cost abot £499 but excellent quality on a buget
    try
    www.leconcepts.com
    and www.richersounds.co.uk > may be .com
     
  5. Wasabi

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    sjallen,

    There are some excellent deals (all free delivery I think) on the new 6th Generation Panasonic TH-42PW6B (Black) - loads of happy owners in the plasma section.

    Nexnix is considered to be one of the best suppliers for plasma/projectors among members here and they sell it for £2818 including a composite/s-video/component(this connection very useful for xbox or gamecube etc) video board and a free tilting wall mount for a limited time.
    http://www.nexnix.co.uk/pds/panasonic - TH-42PWD6.htm

    If you don't want the wall mount then discounttv is selling it for £2649 (although I can't confirm if they still have any in stock) including a scart/composit/s-video videoboard.
    http://www.discounelectricaldb.co.uk/catalog/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/27/products_id/384

    If you want to buy it from John Lewis, then you can use Techtronics.com as a price match as they actually have a physical shop premise. They have it £2499 (their videoboards are cheap though, £130).
    http://www.techtronics.com/uk/shop/865-panasonic-th42pw6b-plasma-widescreen-tv.html

    These deals really means that you go over very little your 32-37 inch's at John Lewis, and you get the best plasma at the moment (well maybe except the forthcoming Pioneer, but that is £1000> more)

    Regarding speakers, I'll come back to it, but there are quite a few threads about budget systems that you can have a read on in the mean time.

    Wasabi
     
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    The Mission 77 series are excellent speakers, and if you get them on the forum classifieds (as I did) you'll get a stupendously good package for your pennies (I have 775e fronts, 77C1, and 771e rears, grand total = £440).

    The trouble is finding them, it's touch and go as to whether Richers will have the 773e in stock, and there are no more 77DS/77C1 available brand new - so you'll have to look out in the second hand arena.
     
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    Never found that techtronics place, incredible prices and the information is presented in perhaps the most clear way possible - certainly easier to look at the sockets than read a load of garbage elsewhere.

    Everyones keen on having a big screen here aren't they :)

    Thanks to you I might look at the Panny6 42" but I won't have a room properly big enough for it for a little while yet. I do agree that it is a sensational screen. Who knows. The Hitachi does suit me very well though. As does the Phillips on techtronics.

    I'll hunt down those speakers and see what theyre like. Might end up going for a cheapo package option to begin with, not sure I can stomach spending too much money in one go.

    All ideas are welcome, people here have been very helpful and I've absorbed a lot of info since finding these forums. I know a hell of a lot about computers but still feel like a noob in this area.
     
  8. Wasabi

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    sjallen,

    If space is really a constraint, then techtronics have an excellent price on the 37inch of Panasonic TH-37PA20B (the consumer model which includes speakers and tuner) of £2688. Again you could use this as price match at John Lewis if they sell this model.

    http://www.techtronics.com/uk/shop/865-panasonic-th-37pa20b-plasma-widescreen-tv.html

    or the award winning Hitachi 32PD3000 at discounttv (also a very good retailer) for £2260.

    http://www.discounelectricaldb.co.uk/catalog/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/27/products_id/234


    Regarding speakers, some good suggestions,

    Elac Cinema 1 with a whopping 6.1 sat system for £369 (silver). It has got lots of happy owners and excellent mag reviews.
    http://www.proaudiosystems.co.uk/acatalog/Elac___Cinema_Series.html

    Why not Mission Cinema 72 (many happy owners), really good for 5.1 sound, less optimised for music though mags say, but excellent home cinema. Price only £290
    http://www.qed-uk.com/?i=0-zMfy2gkiR4&vp=6&bg=216&bp=cin72b&bi=0
    http://www.hifibitz.co.uk/Warehouse/details.asp?ProductID=MISCINEMA72BK

    The smaller Cinema 71 can be had for £257
    http://www.qed-uk.com/?i=0-zMfy2gkiR4&vp=6&bg=216&bp=cin71b&bi=0

    Tannoy FX 5.1 (sat system) system with a really good price £200, I'm pretty sure that it got some good mag reviews, but unlike Elac you can't buy a 6th speaker to make it 6.1
    http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/CatalogueItem_12362.html

    Or lastly, the also excellent Mourdant Short Premiere (relative small sat system) at £300 (graphite or cherry) from richer sounds, which you can buy at the shop which is an added bonus if you want to test it first. Again, you can't buy a 6th speaker.
    http://www.richersounds.com/index.php?f=itemlist.php&c=1306

    Probably others here can give you more opinions about these and perhaps help you narrow down if you are interested in these.


    Wasabi,
     
  9. hornydragon

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    the Panasonic 37THPW6 could be a good plasmato look at also the Sharp 37" LCD TV. For reciever Denon is good but Have a look at Marantz SR5400 and Harman Kardon 2550/3550 speaker if you are short on space look at sub sats Infinity Oreus JMlab Sib and cubs or Kef eggs
     
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    Regarding receivers, here are some suggestions.

    Yamaha RX-V440RDS(Black)/HTR-5640(silver) £227-£231 incl del -
    www.unbeatable.co.uk or
    http://www.qed-uk.com/?i=0-zWD_082n8A&vp=6&bg=212&bp=v440b&bi=0
    http://www.qed-uk.com/?i=0-zWD_082n8A&vp=6&bg=212&bp=5640s&bi=0
    6x65w, many happy owners, with a warm sound both for film and music. Has also 2 component inputs which means that you can run your dvd player and xbox into the amp and run the it centrally.

    Denon AVR-1604 B or S - £240 incl del -
    http://www.qed-uk.com/?i=0-zWD_082n8A&vp=6&bg=212&bp=1604s&bi=0
    http://www.qed-uk.com/?i=0-zWD_082n8A&vp=6&bg=212&bp=1604b&bi=0
    6x75w, should be a good beast indeed if we look at previous 1803's huge success on the forum and tests. You also get a added bonus of adjustable crossover bass management.

    Marantz SR-4400B or S £268 incl del -
    http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/CatalogueItem_15141.html
    http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/CatalogueItem_15142.html
    6x80w, it builds on the successful 4300 and it is both powerful and sounds good for music as well. Many happy owners.

    Onkyo TX-SR501 - £270 incl del -
    http://www.avland.co.uk/onkyo/txsr501/index.htm
    6x85w, Excellent powerful receiver and it has won 2 best buy at 2 av mags. It also has adjustable crossover bass management.

    Sony STRDB-790S - £228 incl del -
    http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/produ...N-STRDB790S.htm
    http://www.techtronics.com/uk/shop/...0-receiver.html
    6x100w, really powerful and got a very good review from what hifi (if you trust them ;p), and has 2 component inputs as well.

    Pioneer VSX-D812-K or S £308 to £311 incl del -
    http://www.qed-uk.com/?i=0-zWD_082n8A&vp=6&bg=212&bp=812b&bi=0
    http://www.qed-uk.com/?i=0-zWD_082n8A&vp=6&bg=212&bp=812s&bi=0
    http://www.techtronics.com/uk/shop/...2-receiver.html
    6x100w, 812 won the big what hifi test, and has many followers here. A bit more expensive but has powerful and clean sound for both film and music, and excellent bonus of manual MCACC, which analyse room acoustics via microphone and adjusts the settings. Although it does not have component inputs or bass filters.

    Again, members here can give you more information the advantages and disadvantages of the amps suggested.

    The suggestions I've made are a bit cheaper than those made by Jus and hornydragon, as you mentioned a budget of £3k, and if you combine it correctly, you should be able to as low as £3118 or max £3365 and still have a good set up. It is between £303-£500 saving.

    Although there might be suggestions that in the long term it is not much and it will bring you to another level, but those combinations cost around £800 to £1000, compared with £430-£680.

    Anyway don't forget to invest in good leads between all units, and that will cost you £100 or so in total.
     
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    If these sound as good as they look (imho of course!) then those would be a quality buy. That's added to my Mozilla bookmark folder of AV stuff to look at!

    I'll do a proper reply in a second, gotta reboot back to Linux...
     
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    Make sure they are the M72i units and they are great speakers for the money add a reciever and you get all your Sound for£800 ish you might want a subwoofer if you like Bass and big bangs Mission do a Sub but there are other options.
    Also you are going to need some decent cables audio and video!
     
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    Yeah from what I've heard you can end up spending more on cables than the rest of the setup. I'm determined to do this properly though, or not at all. I enjoy my movies and games, so I'm going to get a proper setup. Or at least proper to me (not quite onto a 7m wide screen just yet....).

    I'll probably look at the receivers and things tomorrow too. The Sony one looks adequate, and I'll take a look at the Denon too. Correct me if I'm wrong, but do I basically plug all my stuff into the receiver and then the receiver into the TV? Just checking I've got the right end of the stick, I'm still dead new to this!

    Also sorry for asking questions that have probably been asked before - the search function has since picked up the odd useful thread, but stuff does move quickly so I'd like to think this has been worthwhile (for me if noone else)!

    Cheers all, especially Wasabi for incredibly useful and informative help! I'll let you know how I get on, and with luck I should start buying bits and pieces soon :)

    Steev
     
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    You can and for audio everything goes into receiver 10% of budget on cables should be fine Xbox/Ps2 use optical Xbox yood need a special lead, most amps will switch S-video but for RGB higher quality Video sources need scart and will go dierect to TV or plasma can use component (Xbox Hi Def pack) and PS2 for even better reuslts on palsam but you are looking at £600+ for a reciver that will do this. HK4550 Marrantz SR7400 Denon 3803 etc. If you are in Kiddi at the moment (I'm from Stourbridge area originallly) Music matters in stour and downing and downing are good for demos etc but expensive Sevenoaks in Manchester Wolves and Worcs as well. Look at the dealer lists on Marrantz and denon sites for local dealers also trhe mission site M72i pack with an Sr7400 or higher type will be a bit mismatched Sr4400 perfect. For a Sub look at at Velo VX10 Mission M7AS IIRC or Mordaunt short premiere plus system 5 speakers and a sub £650 ish or less will the system be used for music? And do you have a dedicated DVD or do you use a console?
     
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    I use.... my PS2 - don't eat me! I realise this isn't an ideal solution, but on a 14" (even a nice 14" Sony like mine) you don't notice any different. I think I'm right in saying some blue laser type thing will come into the market fairly soon so I might wait till then...

    As goes console connections, should I be RGB'ing the consoles into the TV as priority, or component, or what.... this might be the wrong forum for that. It'd be nice if I could take advantage of the XBox's 5.1. The speaker system would be more useful for films as, at the end of the day few games use surround properly/usefully (as far as I know).

    It's odd, when I started thinking of upgrading my stuff all I wanted was a few extra SCARTs and a few more inches - now I'm after the moon on a stick. Ahh well!

    And just to spice things up I picked up a preowned Dreamcast dirt cheap just last week - there will be a forest of wires behind this TV when I get it...
     
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    you'll run out of rgb scarts vey quickly. using component for the x box and ps2 should be fine just make sure the plasma is progressive scan capable and has both component and rgb inputs, rgb scart will make life a lot easier. s video will give you a good picture quality but not the best, depends weather you want top quality or convinence. using the x box or ps2 as a dvd player will be fine in the short term but a dedicated dvd recorder / player will give you better results. have you considered the philips 32" plasma? as it has a tuner module and four scarts which would make conections simpler. also has the advantage of coming with a wall and table stand.
     
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    sjallen,

    Regarding connections.
    Philips 4scarts (2rgb&2av in), 1s-video, 1component, 2vga. Panasonic 2rgb scarts, 2s-videos, 1component, 1vga.
    Hitachi 3scarts (2rgb&1s-video), 1s-video, 1component, 1vga.

    You could connect your 3 consoles to plasma like this: DC - a vga box (cheap from lik sang)>vga input or s-video. XBOX & PS2 either both rgb scarts or 1scart and 1 comp.

    Quickly to choice of receiver, if you are not connecting your video signals via receiver, then it is not much difference between Sony and Denon, although I would choose Denon as it has adjustable bass filter, which I stress is a useful feature when you watch film & music. But if I would buy one today, I would choose Onkyo (here link to 7 top class reviews from UK and Germany http://www.onkyo.net/uk/cms/products/home/av_rec/TX-SR501E/indtip.htm ). It has both adjstable bass filter, 2 component inputs (for XBOX & PS2 if you changes and want to use it as a central hub), S-video for DC, 2 optical for the 5.1 sound from XBOX & PS2, but most of all, clearly demonstrated that it has a superb sound.

    Quotes from the various reviews above "Onkyo TX-SR501E also won the necessary points in the Dolby Digital test. Whereas other companies were struggling to follow all that turmoil in “Desperado”, the Onkyo was constantly on the ball and impressed with a performance, which is rather unusual in this price category.", "There was no sound distortion and the sound dimensions were faultless. ", "It really impressed the testers in the laboratory: being able to deliver 5x119 watt into 4 ohms is an amazing feature for this price category.", "above all crisp, realistic and balanced audio output from all channels.", ""The multi-channel implementation is extremely good, and soon makes you forget this is an entry-level perfomer. Sounds move from speaker to speaker seamlessly, and the combination of keen dynamics and clean sound right across the TX-SR501E's performance much better then price tag might suggest.", "The 501 is exemplary when it comes to power distribution.", "It’s all sweetness and light. Image steering with DTS and Dolby Digital is clean and precisely articulated. There is more than a hint of subtety and image depth, while detail levels are particularly impressive. "

    But it is equally good in music too if you read the reviews in detail.

    Back to plasma. Regarding screen technology, Hitachi and Philips uses ALis technology which turns e.g. progressive scan signal into a interlaced one, while Panasonic handle the prog signal as it is. I'm not sure about picture difference using component out from xbox and ps2 to an ALis screen, any help hornydragon?

    hornydragon, do most members here buy extended warranty? If yes, then sjallen, it will be another heavy cost, easily £500.

    I have found an excellent deal on Hitachi 32inch. £2348 incl del, tun/spkr and 5yr warranty. You can add wall kit for £90.
    http://www.internettvsdirect.co.uk/Hitachi-C32PD3000-plasma-tv-widescreen-deals.htm

    Philips(32inch), £2944 incl del, tun/spkr, table st&wall kit, 5yr warr
    http://www.internettvsdirect.co.uk/a-philips-32pf9965c-deals.htm

    Philips(32inch), £2650 incl del, tun/spkr, table stand
    http://www.be-direct.co.uk/productDetails.asp?id=13246

    Philips(37inch), £2800 incl del, tun/spkr, table stand
    http://www.be-direct.co.uk/productDetails.asp?id=13247

    Panasonic(37inch), £2689 incl del, tun/spkr, £150 for wall kit, £150 for pedestal stand.
    http://www.techtronics.com/uk/shop/865-panasonic-th-37pa20b-plasma-widescreen-tv.html

    Speakers
    http://www.hyperfi.co.uk/ , they have the Mission M72 for £200 although it is not the i version.

    Superfi has the M72i(as in improved version) for £309
    http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/page/category.cfm/category/85/StartRow/1

    MJ Acoustics Reference 50 and 100 are excellent subs. Loads of reviews here http://www.mjacoustics.co.uk/index.htm

    Hifistore has excellent prices, £300 for Ref50 and £350 for Ref100.
    http://www.hifistore.co.uk/category.php?qsCat=250TO500

    The reviews says that for a small room Ref 50 is more suitable, than Ref 100 although the latter is only £50 extra.

    Any other opinions about subs members?

    Wasabi
     
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    Ok, quick update on my journey to John Lewis.

    Firstly, they don't seem to bother with Receivers and stuff, I guess for most people a decent quality DVD player is enough. I, however, am increasingly certain (if that makes sense) that it would be a worthwhile purchase for me.

    I looked at the Phillips/Hitachi 32", cried about the price of the stunning Sharp 37" LCD (I don't usually like them but the blacks were actually dark!), dismissed the Sony, and all of the 37"s were a bit expensive. The Hitachi at £2499 really hits the spot for me, lovely picture (well I lie - the picture was crap but only as crap as the rest of them on an RF feed, and the 42" model in the special room was immaculate). I think 32" will suit me now, and maybe in 5 years or so I can get whatever is around then. I believe that the Hitachi has a certain amount of HD support (?) so that will be reasonably future proofed. I'm sure I'm not meant to waffle on about tellys on this forum so....

    The receivers. The Onkyo option looks very very good, my only concern is I haven't heard of them - I suffer from the usual consumer tendancy of buying anything as long as it has Sony on it, somewhere. The receiver issue is going to take some time to resolve, I need to think about it some more and read up a bit. Routing audio and video via the receiver seems a really elegant way of doing things, and is probably the best way of doing things.

    My first step is to order the plasma, which I am hoping to do at either the beginning of November (Uni Reading week) or around Christmas time. I don't expect prices to drop quickly. My only slight worry is the new Hitachi 5000 series, which is released here in the not too distant future. It will probably be too expensive anyway :)

    Cheers again, the waffling is very much appreciated! It's gone a long way to helping me understand what I am letting myself in for :)

    Steev
     
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    Steev,

    You are right, as you noticed on my previous post, it has enough connections, the only missing is a DVI input, but that are only on much more expensive models.

    Did the price at John Lewis include wall mount or table stand?
    Don't bother wait for the 5000 series, as Hitachi are preliminary launching it in spring 2004 and that is probably in Japan. Link http://www.monitor4u.com/english/news/cont.asp?idx=503&contdiv=New Product

    Onkyo is actually one of Japan's oldest brands, created already in 1927, so it is older than e.g. Sony. It is a very renowned brand and makes really good hifi/av gear, and are very innovative.

    Extract from - http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/onkyo_TX-SR601_review_01.html, "Onkyo, which means 'audio' or 'sound' in Japanese, has been producing precision audio components for over a half-century. The company's philosophy is to deliver products that are superbly designed and built to a consistently outstanding standard of excellence. Today, Onkyo is at the forefront of the home theater and digital revolutions."

    And if you go to www.onkyousa.com you will see loads of fantastic products we don't see here. Onkyo hasn't managed to market their products very well here in UK throughout time.

    If you are into routing everything via the receiver then Onkyo has connections for XBOX and PS2 (2 opticals & 2 comp), while DC would connect via s-video, as long as you use one of the consoles for dvd playback. But if you would add another separate dvd player, then you would have to sacrifise one of 3 and route the video signal via s-video and the sound via coaxial (actually better sound than optical). However, there are no receiver with more than 2 component inputs, while there are ones that upconvert the composite or s-video signal to component, e.g. Denon 3803 but that cost a whopping £672.

    Anyway, if you would choose Onkyo, you have both options, route all video signals direct to plasma or via receiver. Sony and Yamaha are the other receivers with 2 component inputs, however to remind you, they lack adjustable bass filters.

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    While we're talking connections, could someone advise me of the best comprimise. I want to plug my 565, X-box and Sky+ into my TV (1 RGB & 1 Component).

    I was thinking in terms of: 565 on component, Sky+ through RGB, and X-Box through Scart.

    Will PAL DVDs work through the component cables? And is there much difference between scart and RGB when it comes to my X-box?

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    Table stand, I think/hope. That's all I want anyway, the plasma is going to be transported a little bit to start (with great care of course). A wall mount will be preferable one day but for its young days it will be at home, then uni (repeat a few times). Then I'll find a nice flat and get everything set up as I want. I've read some stuff about transporting them and it should be fine as long as I drive carefully with it upright in the back.

    Thanks for the Onkyo info, I was obviously being rather naive! Whatever happens, with a receiver as well as the TV I'm bound to have enough inputs. I might upgrade the PS2 to the new model that has decent playback with component out, who knows. I'm getting all excited now and it's going to be a relatively long time before anything gets sorted out :( I hope the next few months go by nice and quick!

    That audioholics site is very interesting! Another bookmark to add to a long list of stuff I ought to read! :)

    Cheers again!
     
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    extened warranty is personal choice depends if you personally like the security then i would go for an inclusive warranty ( i would to be honest seen enough TV's die around 18-36 months and cost £1000's to repair to mean i will be buying warranty when i get a new one (and with the uncertanity of domestic plaasma reliaility i would definatley) at least the barclay card 12 months if not a 5 year JL Policy type PS these can be ought quite reasonably from many outlets.
    On the reciver front JL aint the best place to go Superfi/Sevenoaks are much better for the audio side.
     
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    Well Scart is the cable termination it can carry CVBS (composite), S-Video, or RGB Component for DVD and Scart (set to RGB) and connected to second scart on Sky+ then Sky+ on RGB to TV scart
     
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    Yeah, that's why John Lewis is a must - excellent warranty. I also have an feeling that because of certain circumstances I have I get free delivery :)
     
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    Thanks for the response hornydragon. Prolly me being dense, but I didn't quite follow that.

    By Scart, I mean regular composite scart.

    Thinking about it, will my Yamaha AX640SE when it arrives, have RGB inputs and outputs? That way, both X-box and Sky+ could run RGB through it.

    I intend to run the DVD player direct to the TV, but would I suffer much picture degredation with the other two through the amp?
     
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    RGB Scart will get you an awsome pic compared to composite lots more detail and less noise (wobbly lines) Yam will have S-Video connetions (most likely, check specs) S-video (convienient but not as good as RGB for Sky+ and Component for DVD and Xbox.
     
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    Cheers.

    I'm looking forward to having a play round with it all. TV arrives tomorrow!
     
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    SansSouci,

    What connections do you have on the tv?

    Why would you want to run the other 2 through the amp?

    Why I ask is that Yam 640 doesn't have scart inputs, it has 2 components and 5 s-video inputs, so you would either have to run the dvd player or buy a xbox hi-def pack (that has comp out cables), and the sky would have to run s-video if it has that, into the amp.

    Can't you run all 3 video signals through the tv and all the audio signals through the amp? I am sure that it has 2 rgb scarts since it has component. Is it a Toshiba CRT or a Plasma?

    Wasabi,
     
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    It's a Tosh 36ZD26P. It has component and three scarts, but RGB on just one. Ideally I want to run everything direct, but with the X-box and the Sky+ on RGB I'd need another RGB input.

    I've also read somewhere that the component on the 565 only works on progressive scan NTSC. Have I gotten the wrong end of the stick or will I be needing another RGB for PAL DVDs?
     
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    Sanscousi I would get the HiDef pack you need the Optical lead anyway. and run the DVD (if component) With XBOX through component then choose whether you want SKy+ on RGB or S-Video that will make for the most conveinient System and pretty good Quality
     

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