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Receiver/Amp to complement M&K 850...

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by AngelEyes, Jul 22, 2004.

  1. AngelEyes

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    Hi,

    I would like to buy some M&K speakers 5.1 or 7.1 based on the 850 range. My current amp is an old Sony and would probably roll over and die. What would I need to spend to get the most out othe speakers.

    Things I am intersted in include: video upscaling to dvi/hdmi, auto setup, multiroom etc.

    I would also like to know a good Subwoofer to go with the system (H&K or other).

    Does anyone have experience with the M&K tripole surround towers? better than normal M&K surround??

    Lots of question, many thanks :)
     
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    Hi,
    I have a Yamaha DSP Z9 running my M&K 850 Speakers with column surrounds and it sounds awsome,also the column surrounds give the best surround experience i have heard to date.
    I would think that seeing the quality of the speakers u r after i would invest in a amp of the same sort of quality either Denon AVC A1SRA or Pioneer AX10i
    but i prefered the Yamaha + it has video upscaleing. :smashin:

    John
     
  3. AngelEyes

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    I am not familiar with those amps, how much?

    Do you have 5.1 or 7.1 setup?

    Is there any M&K wall mountable alternative to the columns?

    What sub do you use?

    thanks in advance!! :D
     
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    Hi all,

    I would love to hear about your opinions on the 850 setup and again, amp advice would be good!

    Thanks in advance,

    Jon :thumbsup:
     
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    I currently have 4 K4 tripole surround speakers in a 7.1 system. I haven't heard the column surrounds personally but the K4s sound excellent.
     
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    Hi,
    The amps that i have mentioned are the top of the range intergrated amps from Yamaha, Denon & Pioneer. Appox £3000
    I do run a 7.1 Setup for which i have M&K K15's but because the columns sound so good i like to listen in 5.1
    And for subs i have just upgraded to SVS which is in my sig, it is an American company who specialise in subs and believe you me they generate some serious bass :devil: :devil: :devil:

    John

    PS here is the SVS site
    www.svsubwoofers.com
     
  7. Ian J

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    M&K are not the easiest speakers to drive and the better the amplification, the better they will sound. As they are naturally on the bright side they could do with being driven by warmish amps which is one of the reasons that Denon tend to get recommended.

    I think that rags has the column surrounds in his system.

    I believe that whilst the likes of M&K and Velodyne make some great subs higher up the food chain, their cheaper models have lost out in the performance per pound stakes and if you can accommodate something as large as an SVS it will be unbeatable in terms of value for money by a big margin.
     
  8. AngelEyes

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    Thanks for the feedback so far, very helpful.

    I like the idea of a Denon, but may wait until some of the higher (than 3805) spec models come out.

    Couple more questions...

    1. Do you think a 5.1 with the colums would sound as good as 7.1 with say the LCR-650s? (My wife would prefer less speakers of course!!)
    2. The colums come in different heights, is that the only difference and what advantages are the height differences?
    3. What do you think of Rotel for these speakers?

    Thanks again :)
     
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    I may be in the minority on the forum but I don't believe that 7.1 is all that it's cracked up to be. Many of us with the seating position against the rear wall find it unworkable and whilst people with a dedicated home cinema room are in a different position I don't think that the little extra that you get in some films is worth the extra speakers in the living room
     
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    I think Ian is right, but for some films say Star Wars in THX Surround EX 7.1 does give a much wider surround field.
    Also the M&K 650 are a good speaker but they are direct radiating so you would probably benefit more say for music, the tripole speakers give you a wrap around sound which is far more convinceing for the rear sound stage.
    The K4 tripole's would also be a good quality match,if the size worries you and atleast it would keep the wife happy
    I have not heard Rotel amps so can't comment

    John
     
  11. AngelEyes

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    Ian,

    I am slowly coming round to that idea, especially with the improvement I am expecting to get with my new system.

    I currently have:

    Sony STR-DB940 QS
    Harman Kardon DVD 2550s
    2 x Mission 733 (Front)
    Mission 77c (centre)
    2 x Mission 77DS (rear)
    Yamaha sub (unknown model)

    It does surround but it is just not very involving, dialogue is muffled and you need pretty high volumes to really hear the effects.

    I am hoping my new system will suck me in even at lower volumes.
     
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    John

    Please correct me if I am wrong but I didn't think you could get any DVDs in a 7.1 format? I thought 6.1 was as high as they go?

    Feel free to bitchslap me as I am only a newbie :)
     
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    Hi
    I have the m&k850s and use the little k-4 s as surrounds they are driven by my harman kardon avr 8500 which is on the warmer sounding side but is also very powerful and the sound quality is excellent,If you cant stretch to the flagship receivers have a look at the new nad range as there amps will also drive most speakers to very high levels without sounding harsh.
    Cheers Gonzo. :)
    PS i also have a svs 20-39 pc+ which makes a big difference to the overall sound.
     
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    THX is not really a processing mode as is Dolby Digital or DTS but rather a standard which certain equipment meet in specification.but when THX surround Ex is applied it uses something called ASA(Advancd Speaker Array) which optimises the rears and side speakers to give a more convinceing sound field and therefore more cinematic expeience

    John
     
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    I found this link on my travels about the pros and cons of dipoles, monopoles, 5.1 and 7.1 setups. Quite interesting.
     
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    do you guys have the manufacturers site for the SVS subwoofer and a UK distributer?

    Ta
     
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    Hi
    If you look in the subs section you will find tons of info about svs,you have to import from the usa but it is very easy and the service is above excellent.
    www.svsubwoofers.com
    Cheers Gonzo.
     
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    OMG now I am actually AFRAID of SVS! They certainly know how to write about their kit!

    Will my teeth fall out if I buy the 16-46PC-Plus? No seriously?
     
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    No but your movements will be nice and regular.

    Two other amps that should feature on your list are the Rotel RSX1056 and the Arcam AVR300. The Rotel is a 5 channel amp with 7 channel processing (you can add an extra power amp) and (now I've heard one) is a staggeringly accomplished performer. The Arcam has had some good reviews and has a dedicated cult of followers who will be happy to sing its praise in the Arcam forum.
    HTH
     

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