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Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by (GTV)Chris, Mar 26, 2003.

  1. (GTV)Chris

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    Ok,
    I have B&W centre and front fx speakers.
    A Yamaha Sub.
    At the moment I have really bad toshiba (bought with the tell) speakers.
    Now people in stores tell me that the rears have to be the same as the fronts..but it isn't that way in the cinema's, well thats what a Dolby Digital sound mixer told me.
    And anyway the rears are so much closer to my head. My sofa is against the wall so I am thinking of putting the speakers on the side wall pointing inward.
    I was thinking of using the Bose split speakers as the rears to keep the lady wife happy.....she tells me that she doesn't want monstrous things hanging on the wall.
    Do you think this would be a good option or can you recommend another solution.
    Also - thinking of buying athe Rel Quake...Good choice??

    Thanks

    Chris
     
  2. groundy

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    It's not essential to keep the rears (surrounds ;)) the same as the fronts - in many cases it's not even a viable option. Stay away from the Bose speakers - apart from the poor performance per price ratio - they will not work well (if at all) with your existing setup. Bose speakers are designed to be run off the Bose subwoofer. If small but beautiful with a big sound is what you are after, take a look at a couple of Anthony Gallo Nucleus Micro's:

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73652

    Do some research on the REL Quake - there a varied opinions of it on this site and the general consensus is that it doesn't sound great. You might find different though. You obviously have to take the wife factor into consideration so that probably puts the Velodyne CHT-10 (£325 from Power Buy forum) out of your consideration:

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41254

    Also take a look at the new smaller/cheaper Velodyne VX-10 in the Power Buy Forum:

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71217

    If you like the look of the REL Quake, consider an MJ Acoustics Pro 50:

    http://www.mjacoustics.co.uk/mjacoustics_17.10.02/products/pro50.htm

    If you can push the budget on your sub, you might also want to look at the Anthony Gallo MPS-150 (£450 from the Gallo Powerbuy) or a Velodyne SPL 800:

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71220
     
  3. (GTV)Chris

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    Cheers for the answer.
    My Yamaha sub is Ok, so what I'm looking for is a quantum leap in quality for about £300.
    Yhe Anthony Gallo's are a good option, look lovelly too.
    How much are they for a pair?

    Cheers

    Chris
     
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    £150 EACH???

    Are you joking?

    Sorry but that is going down the Bose route! (rip off prices)

    Get a pair of £300 standmounts and they will outpeform them. I have not heard the Gallos, but a small driver cannot be as good as 2 way speaker
     
  6. groundy

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    NO



    You should be sorry, equating Bose to Gallo.

    Did you read any of the original posters requirements :rolleyes:.

    But a small driver in conjunction with a good subwoofer can be a million times better.

    You've certainly lived up to your name with your post above :laugh:.
     
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    May I ask what speakers you have?

    The build quality looks good, but performance?

    freq response - 100hz-18khz.


    Not down to 80hz (the standard for sats/THX/crossover)

    And not upto 20khz?
     
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    I own the Anthony Gallo Nucleus Micros (but you probably guessed that) and Anthony Gallo A'Diva Centre in partnership with the Anthony Gallo MPS-150 Sub. I don't buy crap.



    A quick search will reveal the opinions of some of the most respected members of these boards regarding the performance of the Gallo Nucleus speakers.



    Your quoted specs (or the source from which you quoted) are incorrect:

    Specifications
    • Frequency Response 80Hz to 18Khz
    • Sensitivity 89 dB/w
    • Nominal Impedance 8 Ohms
    • Power Handling 100 Watts
    • Height on Wallflower™ Stand 36"
    • Driver 3“ full range
    • Crossover None
    • Dimensions 4" Sphere
    • Weight 795g
    • Cone Material Mical Polypropylene Compound
    • Enclosure Material Mild Steel
    • Warranty 5 Years Parts and Labour
     
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    It seems Anthony Gallo are at odds with their own sites. Best if they clarify this one. Gallo representitives regularly browse these boards.
     
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    You seem to be referring to a 5.1 setup from your post ... in which case it is wrong to talk about "rears" - they are "surrounds" and are usually best placed at the side not behind - which is what you seem to intend to do. So don;t thionk of placing the speakers on the side walls as some kind of compromise - it is how they are supposed to be!:clap:
     
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    Nathan,
    I shouldn't really comment here as I'm obviously seen as being bias but if I may, I'd like to say a few things.

    I feel that I'm qualified to comment as I have also installed many of these systems and know a little about them.

    First off. Let me say this. Many people on these forums are fussy with their sound quality including myself. I use these for my own living room system and they are one of the most neutral, uncoloured small speakers on the market.
    Yes they are seen as a lifestyle (that dreaded word again) product and ultimately spoken in the same breath as Bose.

    The similarity ends there. Unlike Bose, these are not plastic enclosures containing 3 dollar drivers. Also unlike Bose, Anthony Gallo actually put more money into the production of these units and less into the marketing coffers.

    In other words people are buying quality not hype!!!!

    I suggest you take a look at the original Gallo power-buy thread where you will see numerous links to various reviews including Nic Rhodes (Beekeeper), Gordon F and many, many more who value sound quality more than hype.
    Also, here is my first look at the NM's.
    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45952

    Regarding conflicting crossover figures on the UK and USA websites.
    Having installed, tested and calibrated many Nucleus Micro's systems, I am of the opinion that the correct crossover point for the NM's is 100Hz. In some smaller rooms where room boundaries are closer and mounted ON wall, I have achieved 80Hz but again feel that the NM's are more comfortable at 100Hz.

    The larger A'Diva's will crossover at 80Hz with ease
     
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    Sorry to invade your thread Chris
     
  14. (GTV)Chris

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    Don't worry M8

    Very interesting reading...I am warming to these little speakers.
    I had a demo and thought they sounded fab.
    Would I be ok using these as surrounds? Does it matter about crossover for the rears....considering that at the moment my rear speakers are worth about £20 :clown:

    Cheers...


    Oh, one more question..how much are the little wall brackets for the Gallo's
     
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    Chris, the Gallo Micros would suit you fine for surround duties - they will be a vast imptovement on what you have at the moment. If you've had a demo, you already know this though ;).

    The wall mount/table mount is a dual design and can be used for either purpose. Power buy price is £22.50 if I remember correctly. They come in Black or White :).
     

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