I have ordered the RD65 today Just had to sort out whether it would fit through the front door. I have the PDF which asks for door sizes if anyone wants it. Should arrive this Friday. Will let you know when it arrives, and take some pics. Perhaps I'll put a box of bran flakes in the shot for comparison. Thanks Razor for the advice, and for banging on about it. Persuaded me to supersize my DLP. ordered from shootandshow.co.uk after advice from some people on this forum (thanks Neil C). People have bough projectors from them before apparently. The price is amazing for it. With afree navman ic320 as well. Nice.