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Radeon, Parhelia, Nvidia for dvd?

Discussion in 'Desktop & Laptop Computers Forum' started by perrin21, Oct 26, 2003.

  1. perrin21

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    Which is best?

    I can buy the parhelia for only £200 128mb version. This looks like a good card.

    How good are the radeons by comparison.

    I DONT want to use it for games, i have an X box for that, just for TV and DVD and Home Videos via WMP. I am a purist and i want the best image quality possible. What do you suggest, money isn't really a problem up to £450. This has to better a Tagmclaren DVD32r for image quality.

    I am using a Panasonic TH42pw4 plasma and a PTAE300 projector, i would like to optimise both of these.

    Many thanks
    Mark
     
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    I think it's generally accepted that Radeons make the best HTPC cards, I have no experience of TV-tuners so can't say about the ATI Wonders which feature this. ATI's mpeg decoding is about the best on a PC, while software like TheaterTek and Powerstrip 'know' about Radeons and can help set them up.

    For non-TV then a 9600 non-Pro, ie. without fan, is pretty much a 'given', what Wonder variant equates I'm not sure.

    IMHO the Matrox is somewhat OTT for your expected use. :)
     
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    OTT, but is the Matrox better? we are only talking £200 for the card. Seems like good value to me given that the Progressive scan module for my tagmclaren DVD32 is £1100.
     
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    I've tried the Parhelia for HTPC use, it's better than Geforce cards but not as good as Radeons. The newer Radeons (9500 and above) have it beat in just about every respect, colour, detail, scaling, overlay, DXVA etc.
     
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    thanks jeff for your reply. Which is the best radeon to buy for HTPC use in your opinion?
    I heard that if there was ever any chance of getting pure 1 to 1 pixel mapping then it would be with the parhelia. Was i mistaken?

    Are the gains very noticeable or not.

    Mark
     
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    The Saphire 9600 non-pro is very good and fan-less. Radeons are very good with custom resolution, I'm not aware of the Matrox being better in this respect, for a while after its release you couldn't do custom resolutions at all.

    There isn't a bid difference between Radeons and the Parhelia, but given the choice the Radeon is the better of the 2.
     
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    Thanks jeff, anybody else have an opinion? Preferebaly users of both as i'm currently torn between the two. Tha fanless sure sounds like a good idea. The only thing that puts me off the radeon is that its a gaming card. Nvidia and ATI are all framerate framerate framerate quake quake quake. Is this really the ultimate solution. Is there a more specialised card for this use?
     
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    ati cards are about quality AND framerate. As said by everybody else, their 2d is second to none, as is their 3d quality for that matter.

    i posted some pics in this thread:
    http://www.avforums.com/frame.html?...ms/showthread.php?s=&postid=755268#post755268
    ausome 3d quality, and the 2d is top notch. worlds apart from nvidia.
     
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    I'll agree with that James, my Nvidia Geforce 3 ti500 looks a bit outclassed in this company. The ATI cards do look very impressive with games but i won't be playing any games on my HTPC i will be using it for DVD and Videos. If it plays DVD better than anything else i'm happy.

    Many thanks for your reply, have you used the parhelia james?
    What did you think?
    Mark
     
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    i havnt myself, no. but i have seen som pictures somewhere comparing 2d shots of the cards. there is very little difference between the two, but the radeon is slightly better.
     
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    So whats better than both. Anyone used the 3d Labs Wildcat 4 cards?
     

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