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R300 printing too dark help please

Discussion in 'Photography Forums' started by pgayler, May 12, 2005.

  1. pgayler

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    I recently purchased an Epson R300, when i print any of my pictures that have been taken with my EOS 300D, they come out quite dark. They look fine on my camera and laptop.
    I have left all the default settings.
    If anyone can suggest what i need to do, i would be most grateful.
    I'm using Canon ZoomBrowser Ex to view and print the photo's, maybe this is a mistake !!
     
  2. Peakoverload

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    Have you calibrated your screen and created an ICC profile?

    Laptops are probably the worst kind of screen to use for trying to match printers to due to the way they work and the fact that they typically arent as good as a CRT but it is possible to get them to match fairly closely to what you print.

    Ideally you want something like a Spyder to calibrate your monitor and create an ICC profile which will ensure that your screen reproduces colours acurately. However in order for this to work properly you need a laptop that gives you seperate controls of brightness, colour and contrast where as a lot of laptops just give you a brightness control.

    If you dont/cant go to the expense of a Spyder and you do have Photoshop then run Adobe Gamma and use this to calibrate your screen. Compared to a Spyder its nowhere near as good but its a bit better than no colour management at all.

    You also want to check what colour profiles you are using on your camera and what you have set in Photoshop (or whatever image editor you are using). Ideally for printing you want to be using Adobe 1998 and not sRGB.

    Also check to see if your printer has an ICC profile which you can install and use with Photoshop.

    I'd strongly advise doing a search in Google for colour management as this is a huge subject and one that is far too long and complicated to cover properly in a forum like this.
     
  3. Paul D

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    I've just got one as well, and had the same problem.

    Not sure if this is right, but i changed a setting in "Advanced" control from "Color Controls" to "ICM".
    Pictures then printed correctly etc. :)
     
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    I have a similiar problem that they look alot brighter on the camera LCD than the print. My CRT screen is somewhere between the 2 but closer to the printer than camera.

    My thoughts on the matter were that because the LCD screens have a back light you are effectively looking at the image as if printed to a transparency and then with a light behind and so it will naturally look lighter - I have got used to it on my camera but if I want to make sure then I dock with the PC to ckec on that screen first.
     
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    another thing to check is the settings in print manager, epson sets its Tone control to Hard which is quiet a dark setting, flick it to Normal and it lightens it up too
     
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    LCD screens are cack for that sort of thing
    mine is so bright, I think I'm going blind. Movies look all wrong too.
     
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    As per peak's advice a Spyder, an ICC monitor profile, and being sure your print software and printer talking to each other correctly is only real way i've found to ensure i get consistently accurate prints.
     
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  9. pgayler

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    Thanks so far for everyones advice, i didn't get time at the weekend to try everything, i thought it would of been, buy digital camera, buy printer, take picture, print picture.. how wrong was i.
     
  10. pgayler

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    As suggested earlier, i have changed the Tone Control from 'Hard' to 'Normal' and also i changed the Colour Management from 'ICM' to 'PhotoEnhance'
    The pictures are now coming out pretty close to the screen.
    So hopefully i can save myself a bit of money on purchasing Spyder etc.
    Thanks
     
  11. mattym

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    good to hear!
     

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