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R3 The Others - Anamorphic ?

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by PaulBoy, Feb 23, 2002.

  1. PaulBoy

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    When I was thinking about whether to get The Others on R3 I read that it was English DTS but did not have an anamorphic picture but at £8-£9 I thought I could live with that ...
    Well it arrived yesterday & I flicked my Panasonic WS TV "zoom" to see how wide it would go and bingo it filled the screen so either it is anamorphic or I dont know what Im fecking talking about (not a first I'll grant U) ...
    The box does not quote a screen ratio just says "Letter Box"
    My other (few) non-anamorphic films (eg Great Escape) zoom a tadge but certainly dont fill the screen ...
    BTW great service from www.dddhouse.com - ordered & arrived in 5 working days ...
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    I have one as well.

    It's 2.35:1 anamorphic. :)
     
  3. buns

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    i wondered about this too, it does seem to be 2.35:1 anamorphic, i think.

    Jeepers creepers on dddhouse also appears to be labelled as letterbox, is it?

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    Some countries/regions quote their aspect ratio differently.
    For instance, in Japanese version of R2, they usually quote, "suqeezed widescreen 2.35:1" or "sqeezed widescreen 1.85:1" as anamorphic widescreen.
    I know...it's very strange. :(

    Buns, I'm not sure about Jeepers Creeper(R3), but I'm pretty sure it's anamorphic(2.35:1).
    My Jeepers Creepers(R1) is anamorphic.
     
  5. chic

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    I have the others r3 it is not anamorphic but it is 1/85/1 ratio so if you zoom it up it will fill the screen of a wide screen tv.
     
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    Definitely NOT anamorphic.
     
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    This is getting funny.

    How many versions of The Others(R3) are there?
     
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    i dont know what mine is, but with my sanyo in widescreen, the picture appeared to be 2.35:1. When put into 4:3 mode, it just looked wrong.

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    Both The Others and Jeepers Creepers were shot 1.85:1 not 2.35:1 (cinemascope).

    The Others (R3) definitely isn't anamorphic.
    Jeepers Creepers (R3) is spread over 2 discs and fullscreen from what I've been reading elsewhere.
     
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    well in that case i would have to say that the transfer on the others, region 3, looks awful odd on my system!

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    I must be really missing something. :(

    I just read tryingtimes(Alex)'s review on The Others(R3), and he also reckons that it is non-anamorphic.
    Thus, I just checked my "The Others(R3)", and to me it looked like 2.35:1 anamorphic.

    Unless, there are different versions of "The Others(R3)", it must be non-anamorphic which means I must be wrong.

    Ok. How do you folks normally tell if a certain title is anamorphic or non-anamorphic without looking at specifications?

    :D :)
     
  12. Ono

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    My TV auto-switches to W/S mode when it is anamorphic.
     
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    That convinced me even more.
    My The Others(R3) must be anamorphic with aspect ratio of 2.35:1. :(
     
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    zcaps57,
    So when you view it at 2.35:1 anamorphic don't all the characters look short and fat?
    As someone mentioned the theatrical presentation of the movie was in 1.85:1 I've never seen anyone pan and scan a movie from 1.85:1 to 2.35:1 - it would seem daft when no-one would prefer it.

    Both my software players (PowerDVD and TheaterTek) only look correct in zoom mode.

    Very strange
     
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    No, it looks perfectly normal.
    This is very strange. :confused:
     
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    Remember - Nicole Kidman is unusually thin:D :D
     
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    I may well be corrected by others more knowledgeable, but I do not think that you can assume it is anamorphic just because a DVD supports auto switching to widescreen mode.

    They are two separate issues.

    On my TV none of my R1 NTSC DVDs will auto switch, whether they are anamorphic or not.
     
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    You need to tell DVD player that you have a 16x9 TV in its menus. Providing you have a SCART connection it will be autoswitch.
     
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    I'm sorry, you misunderstand me.

    I know how to configure my kit.

    What I meant was that R2 PAL DVDs will auto size, but R1 NTSC ones will not.
     
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    Got me there.:confused:

    All my R1 anamorphics switch no problem.
     
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    Folks,
    I hate to say this. But I was definately wrong.

    The Others(R3) is non-anamorphic.

    I apologize for my wrong information which might have confused some people.

    I sort of went through some of my R3 titles(I've about 15 R3 titles) last night, and found "Tin Cup(R3)" was 2.35:1 non-anamorphic. This title looked the same as "The Others". :(

    Now, I am really confused.
    My "True Lies (R1)" is 2.35:1 letterbox as well as "Tin Cup(R3)" according to their spec.

    The "True Lies(R1)" has thicker black bars top & bottome of image. I thought only these kind of titles were non-anamorphic.
    Now I think it's got something to do with existance of a term at the spec of titles such as "enhanced for 16x9 widescreen TVs".

    How am I supposed to tell the difference between non-anamorphic and anamorphic widescreen without seeing the spec of particular title? :confused:
     
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    I just look at people and see if they look normal. I notice within the first couple of seconds.
    On my HCPC it's easy because TheaterTek is really good at detecting.
    Glad you sorted The Others out anyway

    Alex
     
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    Hi, Alex.

    I've just been to your website. fantastic HT you've got there mate. :)

    I noticed you're using M-Audio Audiophile 24 96 Sound Card.

    1). how is its drivers and sound quality compared to Creative lines?

    2) is it available in UK ?

    Any comments, opinions would be great!
    :D
     
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    1. Sound quality through the s/pdif is a definite improvement over a SBlive that I have in another computer. Before the M-Audio I had a Hurcules Fortissimo. The sound on this was also better than the SBlive but I could never get smooth video playback on either PowerDVD or TheaterTek.

    Sound quality through the stereo outputs (from cd/mp3) is hugely better than SBlive!

    Driver support for XP isn't fantastic yet (some people are fine - some people get problems) but every other OS is absolutely fine.

    Also, there are so many people in the world using one for HCPC that they will have come accross any problems you may find and have already found solutions.

    2. Yes it's available all over the place but mainly at computer-music shops rather than computer shops. Someone over on the HCPC section bought there's from http://www.turnkey.uk.com fairly cheap.

    The only other thing worth mentioning is that the card doesn't support surround-sound PC gaming. There's a thread in the HCPC section giving better alternatives for this use.

    Hope that helps
    Regards
    Alex
     
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    Thanks, Alex. :D
     
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    i believe the pin needed on the SCART to switch widescreen is different.

    My TV developed a number of faults, and one of these was no more switch on R1 discs, even though it done for the past 2.5 years.
     
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    That would be a good theory if the DVD and TV were connected via SCART. However, they are connected via a Component lead for Video and co-ax for sound.

    If you use component the TV does not go straight to the DVD player when you switch on as it does with SCART, but it does switch screen mode for R2 PAL discs. Just not for R1 NTSC.

    That is why I said that anamorphic is not the same as autosizing.
     
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    One good way to tell if some thing is anamorphic is to look for circles. If they appear tall and thin, then you are watching an anamorphic picture and need to stretch it to fill your widescreen, upon doing so the circles should be circular again.
     
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    Try this, if you have a 16:9 ratio tv

    Put tv in 4:3 mode. Make sure dvd player is set to play on a 16:9 tv through its own menu.

    On an anamorphic 2:35.1 dvd while watching in 4:3 mode on the tv you should still see black bars on top and bottom of picture.

    On an anamorphic 1:85.1 dvd while watching in 4:3 mode on the tv you should not be able to see hardly any black bars top and bottom.

    A good example to test the first example for 2:35.1 dvd is Tommorow Never Dies(R1)

    A good example to test the second example for 1:85.1 dvd is Jurrasic Park 3(R1)

    Depending on tv, make sure it is not on AUTO mode for switching and that you manually select 4:3 mode and that it stays in 4:3 mode while conducting the tests.

    Let us know how you get on

    Mahmood

    ps is The Others a good thriller?
     

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