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  1. nheather

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    Many years ago I had a loftroom conversion done. Room is 5m x 5.6m, has two single light pendants fitted with multi-bulb light fitting.

    It was originally used as a playroom for the kids but is now being repurposed as a bedroom for my grown up son.

    Would like to fit LED spot lights - the electrical side is not a problem - what is putting me off is the mechanics of routing the cabling between each of the fittings whilst doing as little damage to the ceiling as possible.

    How viable a job is this - I imagining that I will encounter joists and insulation that will make the job a bitch.

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
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    Is it a suspended ceiling or plaster board nailed to the roof joists?
     
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    Not sure but thinking about it the idea is stupid. The roof is sloped at the sides so you wouldn't want spots in that which just leaves the relatively narrow centre.

    Guess I'll be looking for some more convential light fittings but ones that take LED lights (and not the stupidly expensive bulbs either).

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
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    @nheather, you can just fit the standard spotlights-on-a-bar type of lights with GU10 LED bulbs. Not the prettiest, but by far the easiest way in this case, and you can adjust/direct the bulbs where you want them to light. You can get GU10 LEDs with varying amounts of spread, I'd imagine you want the largest angled spread possible in this case.
     
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    Not answering as any sort of an expert but depending on the construction an electrician might be able to run rods in the ceiling to pull the cable through.

    A different setting but I was able to run rods with relative ease in a ground floor ceiling despite rafters, beams, a steel and pipes to navigate around.
     
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    I already have a set of fiberglass rods that can be screwed together designed for just this purpose. This was my thought process though

    + the spotlights will only be about 4' apart so not far to pull a cable
    - working though a 70-80mm holes might be difficult, need to be a gynacologist
    - insulation could be a problem, espesically if it is polystyrene bonded to the back of the plasterboard
    - joists would be a no go

    But then I remember the shape of the ceiling and realised that spotlights are not really viable any way.

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
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    Silly suggestion #2:

    Are you sure spotlights wouldn't work? It depends on the slope of the ceiling, but spots would shine downwards across the room and to some extent up the opposite wall. Would that be so bad?
     
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    How about something like these?
     
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    Best thing to do if your not sure, is to drill a decent size hole with a hole saw and get your phone/camera up there. You might find with it being a loft conversion that all you have to contend with is a load of trimmers, with a void above. In which case you only need to get above these without drilling any joists.
    Once you've worked out whats what, set your downlights out where you would like them, drill up with a small drill bit to check at each light for joists.
    If fishing up and across I tend to use trunking lid instead of rods.
    The original hole just needs a bit of timber strapping across with a screw in either side of the hole and screw up the original bit of plasterboard left from your hole saw.
     
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    You can fish anything through ceilings, it just depends how committed you are, and how many holes you're willing to patch up.
     

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