Question about DVD players using HD?

[Bullet Theory]

Hi everyone

Im new to all this HD stuff, so please, bare with me

Im getting a new LCD TV soon, and I was wondering what DVD player could be used to maxmise my viewing pleasure?

Id have about £150 for a new DVD player

If Ive got this all wrong, and DVDs don't use HD...then, Im dumb, but please help me

 

[PJTX100]

Hi. This is a common question, not surprising really considering all the misleading HD hype.

Have a read of this thread, feel free to ask further questions when you've digested some of the themes here...PJ

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246023

 

[Bullet Theory]

Thanks alot for replying with the links

So when I get my LCD, I'll try my existing DVD player (it was a cheapish Bush one), just using a scart lead?

Im sorry about the question, Im very new to all this stuff, so most things are just passing over my head lol

 

[PJTX100]

Im sorry about the question, Im very new to all this stuff, so most things are just passing over my head lol

Absolutely try your existing player first, it costs nothing!

Presuming you are using SCART to connect it the picture will probably look fine.

That said, you actually may get a worthwhile performance improvement if you try something like the Pioneer 575 connected via component. Presuming your Bush player is a few years old and didn't cost the earth!

...PJ

 

[Bullet Theory]

To be honest I think the Bush DVD player has had it now. It frequently makes DVDs skip, which can't be the DVD discs fault because it happened with a brand new one I just bought

I've found that Pioneer 575 for £99.95, is that a reasonable price for the player?
I can afford that, so it seems reasonable to me

Also (sorry for my ignorance) what do you mean by connecting the DVD player via component?

 

[PJTX100]

I've found that Pioneer 575 for £99.95, is that a reasonable price for the player?

Yes, presume that's Richer sounds? For £99.95 this player is a steal. There are some very good players around at the moment, this is one of the best. Multi region, plays everything.

Also (sorry for my ignorance) what do you mean by connecting the DVD player via component?

Component is regarded as a slightly better connection than SCART. It comes as 3 phono connectors usually colour coded Red Blue Green eg

http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/t..._group/se=Video Cables/op=eq.html?id=WxIdLuvH

...PJ

 

[Bullet Theory]

Yeah Richer Sounds

Cool I get what you mean about the component thing now

There are two LCD TV's im looking at, so from this lil list here, Im assuming only one of them has the correct component connections?

TV One: Connections: Antenna, Composite, S-Video, Scart (RGB, CVBS in / TV Out), VGA, 2 x Component YUV (Y/Pb/Pr), RS232 (for firware update), Audio, Sub-Woofer

TV Two: Input: AV, S-Video, PC/D-sub, Audio PC, Scartx2,HD ready DVi Input

Im worried now, as TV is supposed to be HDTV ready, it doesn't mention it, whereas TV two does

 

[PJTX100]

Yeah Richer Sounds

Cool I get what you mean about the component thing now

There are two LCD TV's im looking at, so from this lil list here, Im assuming only one of them has the correct component connections?

TV One: Connections: Antenna, Composite, S-Video, Scart (RGB, CVBS in / TV Out), VGA, 2 x Component YUV (Y/Pb/Pr), RS232 (for firware update), Audio, Sub-Woofer

TV Two: Input: AV, S-Video, PC/D-sub, Audio PC, Scartx2,HD ready DVi Input

Im worried now, as TV is supposed to be HDTV ready, it doesn't mention it, whereas TV two does

You shouldn't worry, you are asking questions first, before you have parted with money. Too many people come on here saying "I've just ordered X, will it work with Y?".

Something I forgot to mention - component is video only, ie it doesn't carry audio. Most people plug the DVD into a separate surround sound system, so this isn't an issue. However if you do want to stick with SCART (to get the sound out of the TV) the Pioneer produces an excellent pic via SCART too (I've seem my brother's via SCART and it's great).

Both TV's have SCART, so that's not an issue.

If you post details of the sets you are looking at I may be ably to comment further...PJ

 

[Bullet Theory]

Awesome, thanks alot

Well I have a surround sound system that came with my Bush DVD player, will it work with the Pioneer you know?

The two TV sets I'm looking at are

VideoSeven LTV27C

and...

DiBoss LT-27KLF

which would you reccommend upon looking?

I think the VideoSeven looks best (IMO), it says its HDTV ready (yay) plus it has the component connections

Thanks alot for this mate, it's really really really appreciated

 

[PJTX100]

Awesome, thanks alot

Well I have a surround sound system that came with my Bush DVD player, will it work with the Pioneer you know?

How do you currently connect the Bush player to the surround system presently?. Usually to get true 5.1 surround sound you use a single phono (also called digital coax).

The two TV sets I'm looking at are

VideoSeven LTV27C

and...

DiBoss LT-27KLF

which would you reccommend upon looking?

I think the VideoSeven looks best (IMO), it says its HDTV ready (yay) plus it has the component connections

Thanks alot for this mate, it's really really really appreciated

Well, I've never owned an LCD TV and seen neither of these so I wouldn't like to recommend one over the other, I think that's down to gut feel on your part.

I can tell you some aspects of their HD capability though, but forgive me because I can't avoid using technical jargon.

Both screens are WXGA resolution ie 1280x720 pixels ie the are both indeed HD capable.

However, true HD players won't be out until next year, and then they do come out initially they won't be cheap, and nor will the films. I'm expecting that I won't go for true HD for at least 18 months. Note: current DVD players aren't HD, and they won't be compatible with HD films when they come out. You'll need a new player!

When the players do come out the expectation is that the connection of choice will be HDMI - neither set appears to have this connector. The next choice will be DVI - the DiBoss has this connector. HDMI and DVI are both pure digital connections. I'm not 100% sure but I think that component will also be an option for connecting HD - if so than you'll be fine with the VideoLogic, the fact it explicitely says it can accept HD (720p / 1080i) would be a hollow statement if it couldn't.

To sum up, the fact that the DiBoss has DVI does suggest it is more future-proof. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's a better set!...PJ

 

[Bullet Theory]

Right I see, thanks mate

Hmmmn, after reading alot today (my eyes are actually hurting now) I might just keep hold of my money for a bit longer, before I'm definatley convinced I should be parting with my money

I might get that DVD player still though

 

[PJTX100]

Right I see, thanks mate

Hmmmn, after reading alot today (my eyes are actually hurting now) I might just keep hold of my money for a bit longer, before I'm definatley convinced I should be parting with my money.

Sorry if I put you off. To be honest, if all you want is a nice flat LCD screen to watch DVDs on, both will probably look fine. The usual recommendation is to go and see one in action yourself first though.

I might get that DVD player still though

There I can be definitive and say you won't be disappointed. Be quick though 'caus the 575 has just been replaced by the 585 which initial reports say isn't quite as good, hence Richer stocks may soon be getting low...PJ

 

[Bullet Theory]

You didn't put me off, just opened my eyes and made me understand more
I'd like to the TV ready for Xbox360, PS3 and Sky in HD, so Im best to wait

I'll be sure to pick up a DVD player quickly, will it look just as good in SCART on my normal TV at the moment?

Also, will my Bush surround sound work with this DVD player?

 

[Fluffy-Bunny]

It always astonishes me why and how companies can release a "new" DVD player, which is worse than their older model...?

 

[PJTX100]

Also, will my Bush surround sound work with this DVD player?

How is it currently connected?...PJ

 

[justdoit]

Just A note of warning about the Diboss, I have had one for the last month but it seems either the TV is faulty or the company is telling porkies.

The PIP only works with PC Display (Dsub) on main and channel/AV in box(but with no sound).

You cannot swap pictures over, it simply reverts back to channel/AV.

I have no Dual Window option available or Scan mode which Diboss states the TV has.

They imply it comes with a wall mount (at least on Amazon) but it doesn’t.

The customer support is slow to say the least.

On the plus side the picture is very good for a cheap set and it is allegedly HD ready on the DVI but as I have been very disappointed with what I believed I was getting so far I will reserve judgment on that until I see it (or not as I will be demanding a refund and taking the company to trading standards if the other issues are not solved)!