Queen Hits DVD, Aspect Ratio Query

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  1. Kevo

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    Queen have a new Hits DVD out in October http://www.queenonline.com/

    It says that its "pan and scanned for 16:9"

    This is a new one on me. I'm not quite how to interperet it as nearly all Queens' videos were shot in 4:3.

    Anbody have any ideas?

    I've a horrible feeling that the orig 4:3 image has bee cropped and re-sone in 16:9 :eek: like they did with the recent release of the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert DVD.

    Why they would want to do this is anybody's guess :confused:
     
  2. DaveCheltenham

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    Kevo – The DTS surround sound is great but the Video Quality is atrocious. Not because they have made it 16:9 per say but the way they appear to have done it.

    It looks as if they have stuck a camera in front of a video screen as per the old telefilm way. You can see spot imperfections going up and down as they pan vertically. The only reason I looked for this in the first place was the poor video quality compared to my now very ancient Laservision Disc “Queen Greatest Flix” which I bought about 20 years ago. So much for progress.
     
  3. Kevo

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    Thanks Dave

    So what's all this "A year in the making" nonsene ?

    And.....

    "The first time such a project on this scale has been undertaken"

    I'm suprised as Queen are usually 'perfectionits' on things like this.

    Think I'll stick to my good old VHS G Flix.
     
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    absolutely awful IMO and I;m a fan..:(
     
  5. DaveCheltenham

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    So am I museumsteve. There was a further point I forgot to mention previously; as you can see the panning by the fixed imperfections on the screen, you can also see it is reactive rather than programmed. Almost always a bit late.

    Must forget about it and listen to the great sound on Disc One.
     
  6. Kevo

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    Are you sure?

    Mine must be faulty as only TWO tracks are in 5.1 (Bo Rhap and Best Friend).
    The rest are in what can only be described as 4.1, but not deliberatley.
    There is NO sound at all from the centre channel, except a few 'sound effects' in Flash which were clearly meant for the surround channel.

    This HAS to be a faulty disk, surely?

    It's not just me as it has been wideley discussed in Queen forums on the net.

    Dave, Steve what does yours sound like?

    BTW, this is me!.....

    http://www.homecinemachoice.com/new...emachoice.com/cgi-bin/displaynews.php?id=2483
     
  7. gringottsdirect

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    Take 4:3, chop bottom and top off, voila ! ....... Widescreen.
     
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    Kevo,
    I checked my copy again this evening and you are
    right - no centre channel on all but the two tracks
    you mentioned!
    As the Bohemian Rhapsody and Your My Best Friend
    tracks were mixed for the DVD AUDIO release of A Night
    At The Opera and were used for this compilation I can't
    for the life of me understand why the other 14 tracks
    couldn't make use of the centre channel.
    It still sounds ok though but the other two tracks are
    in a different league.
    I have a feeling that this story is going to run and run.
     
  9. Kevo

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    Have a listen to Flash, you can clearly her some of the film dialogue coming out of the centre channel, when it was obviously intended for the front L or R.

    It's as if the channels have been mixed up.

    This is what convinces me that there has been a major error.

    Also, my RP TV really shows up all the 'warts and all' of the extra processing that has been done to the original videos.

    Some of the videos look inexcusably APPALLING. Well below VHS standard, let alone DVD standard. Check out Tie Your Mother Down or Another One Bites The Dust, to name but a few, really poor quality. They've got a real 'cartoony' look and on nearly all the vids you can clearly see 'hoizontal blinds' going across the screen!

    Ironically the earliest clips on disk 2, Liar, KYA and NIH which are in their OAR and have not been given the 'restoration' treatment are perfect. Why did they have to meddle with it?
     
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    I haven't checked out disc 2 yet but I totally agree with
    you about the picture quality - absolutley crap!
    I've only watched 3 of the videos all the way through and
    decided that the best thing to do is TURN THE TV OFF and
    pretend it is a DTS Music cd!!!
     
  11. DaveCheltenham

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    Just what I do bowenjones.
     
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    Well, after initial disappointment has subsided, I had a real good session with both discs tonight, DTS and PCM.
    Have got used to odd reframing and maybe thinking considering the age of the original footage, I should be content :( with PQ over the discs as a whole. Sound growing on me.
    Played " hidden" flame version of Bohemian Rhapsody, after finding how to do it on www.queenonline.com. Thanks to Pluto and others :) .
    ( Select track 09 / 10 after pressing " display " on remote handset. )
    Noticed Kevo there too.
     
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    was looking forward to replacying my queens greatest hits video cd with the new 5.1 dvd but won`t bother now. i can already get appalling pictures on the video cd for nothing!!
     

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