I'd really appreciate your comments on the relative quality between recordings made onto dvd-r on the Panasonic e55 and the Pioneer 220. Are they essentially about the same? Does one drop off in quality against the other after longer recording times? (I expect to keep recordings under 2hrs per dvd, but wonder how they compare for, say 3hrs). I intend to copy from my sky+ hdd directly to dvd-r and then, if the recording warrants it, I would edit out ads etc. on my pc using TMPGEnc or Womble. btw, I know that it makes sense to have a hdd recorder but I absolutely cannot afford one. Also, I'm not interested in component out/prog scan. I just want the best quality recordings from source to dvd. Cheers guys.