Other than stuff I've already had in and tested, I doubt I'll be reviewing much of anything new for the foreseeable future.Thanks for the review Steve, I'm very interested in this for my 3020i's. Will you be reviewing the Q Acoustics 3030i anytime soon? Thanks
Is it because of the rounded cabinet, size or just want QA sub? There is often new grade-b BK P12-300SB the sealed 12" version available for 346£ which would make MUCH more sense being cheaper and offering better performance aswell. Also i would see the support better from BKE if you have to deal with any issue. QA in the past have had quite many amp issues.Thanks for the review Steve, I'm very interested in this for my 3020i's. Will you be reviewing the Q Acoustics 3030i anytime soon? Thanks
There can be many things that can affect what you heard as loose bass and i seriously doubt the P12 sub was fully the blame there. You can afford to pick the XXLS400 (400£) model too which has better driver and almost twice the power from QA sub. It has been known to be great subwoofer for 2ch music listening over 8-10years already with members of AVF! You also get the high level connection which many 2ch audiophiles rave about.Thanks for your comment. I'm not convinced at all that the BK would offer better performance other than going deeper, which I certainly don't need. Yes the aesthetics are preferable but not essential. My priority is music and tight bass. I'll demo it in my local hifihut at some stage. I have heard the BK regularly as my brother has it, and with movies it's awesome, with music I thought it was a bit loose
Agreed having owned numerous subs, several svs, Mjs, velodyne,rel,MK,SUNFIRE, the Bks are outstanding for the cost.There can be many things that can affect what you heard as loose bass and i seriously doubt the P12 sub was fully the blame there. You can afford to pick the XXLS400 (400£) model too which has better driver and almost twice the power from QA sub. It has been known to be great subwoofer for 2ch music listening over 8-10years already with members of AVF! You also get the high level connection which many 2ch audiophiles rave about.
*edit* Just seen replies above. Ignore meThanks for your comment. I'm not convinced at all that the BK would offer better performance other than going deeper, which I certainly don't need. Yes the aesthetics are preferable but not essential. My priority is music and tight bass. I'll demo it in my local hifihut at some stage. I have heard the BK regularly as my brother has it, and with movies it's awesome, with music I thought it was a bit loose
I was referring to Covid19.Hi Steve
Thanks for the review.
Is your future lack of input connected to the current C virus output or will you not be reviewing for avforums?
Why are you not going to be doing many reviews? I would have thought the companies are going to be keen for a bit of promotion and when Netflix are talking about reducing the quality of their service to reduce strain on the internet! I would think that hifi and av are one of the few things that people will still be buying as usage must be through the roof! I imagine you wear gloves when setting up and personally I would appreciate more reviews while I vegetate! When you rub someone up the wrong way I enjoy defending you and your valid opinions too! I am happy to do a few reviews if you want though you would have to give it a hell of a lot of polish as it is hard to polish a turd!I was referring to Covid19.
unlikely , BUT ITS YOUR BRASS.This sub can now be bought for £429, priced between the xls200 and xls400.. would performance be somewhere in between?
i prefer the more efficient class d amp
You can`t buy them from Uk or demo sadly. Straight from XTZ just like with BK. But you have 30day buy&try period, returning will cost though. One negative may be if you listen very loud the small cabinet on 10.17 Edge and 1port open mode means there can be port chuffing. Most people have picked the larger 12.17 Edge so less chance for that and it`s also more capable under 30hz. 100€ more expensive. Sure if you want to run as sealed then the smaller may do, but if you have got 10" subs already you may want to get something larger for more noticeable upgrade..thanks for the suggestions. the xtz looks very attractive with dsp and class d 700w amp even compared to the bk subs. ill have a read about them and see where in the uk i can demo or buy from.
im currently have a q.acoustics 2070 and rel r205 and i used to have an xls200 so when i upgrade id be looking at something better than these.
The vast majority of people on this forum (despite never having personally done hands-on testing of Q Acoustic B12 in their own system) will tell you that BK Elec, SVS, XTZ are better. Make of that what you will.This sub can now be bought for £429, priced between the xls200 and xls400.. would performance be somewhere in between?
i prefer the more efficient class d amp
Yes, that's right. I put the bungs in so that Concept 40 are tight and fast sounding (and can also be closer to the wall). The crossover on the amp or processor can then be set to 80Hz, so that most of the lower bass (probably 25-80Hz range) comes from B12, and the Concept 40 doesn't have to handle any difficult bits.That has got me thinking. I have the concept 40's and i find the bass too strong and boomy with no bungs even when moved away from the wall. Do you find the B12 go a lot deeper than the concept 40's? Are you running your concept 40's full range with no crossover?
On paper the B12 isn't very deep for a 12 inch sub but neither are the concept 40's on paper.