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PWD7, Quintro and Lip Synch - What next ?

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by tetrarch, Mar 30, 2005.

  1. tetrarch

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    I read, I asked , I listened.

    I then went to AV-Sales and SAW FOR MYSELF. I chose the PWD7 and it's now firmly fixed to the wall.

    Current Equipment
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    PWD7
    Sony HT-K250 Amp/5 speakers,sub (no Audio delay :thumbsdow )
    Crappy DVD player
    Philips On-digital box !!! (antique)
    VCR
    PS2

    (I am planning to buy the new Humax 9200 twin-tuner PVR and DVDR at some stage.)

    On advice I cabled in an RGB cable and a PC-type cable as well as a scart.
    I am currently running everything through the Quintro and only have the SCART terminal board. Lip-synch would appear to be a perennial problem but my experience is that the amount of lip-synch is variable. Sometimes DVD's appear to lag less than some TV programmes (most noticeable on News)

    Also on solid "reds" there is slight coruscation. PQ is very good but could be better (crappy equipment likely culprit)

    The JS boxes seem quite expensive, can I do anything to improve my current set-up or do I need to invest in totally new equipment. Obviously I would like to keep as much as possible of my existing kit but I am open to suggestions.

    Thanks

    Tet
     
  2. Mep

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    switch the amp for one with audio delay...apparently superfi are doing the yammy rx v450 for £150 now!...you'll probably find like me you can set it to -60ms which will correct any issues but isn't so much delay that you'll notice it other times.....seems to be a 'cure-all' setting.
     
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    I agree. I set my Yam AX750SE (which I bought from Richer Sounds last week with £150 off retail price, for £350), to 60ms and all lip-sync problems seem to be gone. It's a superb piece of kit, by the way. I'm delighted with it. :clap:
     
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    I have a Quintro, it's disconnected from my PWD6 as I found
    picture quality to be far worse when using it.
     
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    I wonder if your lip sync is due to antiques rather than new plasma. A way of ditching the Sony and the quintro would be the Pioneer VSX402, it does the scart switching and audio functions. I've not seen significant lip sync probs with this setup. Video quality is good, significant step up from quintro.
     
  6. tetrarch

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    This is really annoying...

    I spent £150 on the Sony HT-K250, and £90 on the Quintro to find out that they're apparently rubbish.

    Aside from the Plas, these are the most recent purchases I've made. The Sony comes with AM/FM tuner and is a very nice package. The speakers are discreet and already fitted into the room.

    I'm not averse to replacing kit but it seems ridiculous to spend money now replacing "good" stuff when I could spend the cash on a PVR and trash my really old kit.

    Can it really be that difficult to get hold of a delayer of some sort. Is there not a demand for a lip-synch solver. It seems crazy that it can be "thrown in" to receivers willy-nilly but is not available at all as an after-market solution.

    Maybe my expectations are unrealistic, but I can't pretend that I'm not disappointed.

    Regards

    Tet
     
  7. johndon

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    In a previous thread about lip sync, there was mention of a company producing a seperate box that could be used to add an audio delay but I can't for the life of me remember who they were. A search on the forum for 'lip sync' should bring it up.

    John
     
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    There is such a device, works on digital audio. So you'd need one of them, £95 as I recall, and converters for any analogue audio that needs delaying. I still don't think it's the real issue, it's likely your sources
     
  9. tetrarch

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    There is such a device, works on digital audio. So you'd need one of them, £95 as I recall, and converters for any analogue audio that needs delaying. I still don't think it's the real issue, it's likely your sources

    Ooh,ooh.....Mr Beazley, Mr Beazley (anyone who understands this reference is showing their age)

    Where can I get one ?

    Regards

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    Question for you guys ! When buying an Av Amp what should you look for in the spec regarding the time delay function to sort out this lypsinc problem !
     
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    Something like:-
    "Audio Delay for Adjusting Lip-Sync (0–160ms)". This was taken from the Yamaha site for the DSP-AX750SE.
     
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    Thanks fore the reply, have looked at several models but think I will have to look closer ! It seems a shame that we learn from other peoples problems/mistakes !
     
  14. tetrarch

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    The Felston is £164.44 plus £10 del. , not quite £95

    Any advance on £175 ???

    Tet
     
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    OUCH! I'll have a poke around my catalogues.
     

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