PSM DeepBlack projector screen border tape review

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  1. theskintman

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    I'm currently putting together my DIY screen. I bought a roll of PSM DeepBlack (DeepBlack Border Tape - PSM - Projector Screen Material border tape on a whim, and thought I'd compare it to a cheap roll of sticky-back black felt. I'm making my borders out of 7cm wide acrylic that I'm wrapping with the tape/felt.

    I used the sticky-back felt first, and was initially happy enough, and thought about returning the tape because it's pretty expensive (£40 for 10m of the 10cm wide tape. 5cm wide tape is £20). However, this evening I thought I'd give it a go as I just felt my felt border (heh) didn't have the clean edges I was hoping for.

    The felt was a pain to use as it was stretchy and thus I found it a bit tricky getting a smooth finish. The DeepBlack tape on the other hand was fantastic - it laid flat without stretching, and I could pull up and reposition the tape without any issues (no chance with the felt - once it's stuck, it's stuck!)

    The real test was under bright lights - I used lamps as my projector's not up and running 'til the screens made. The felt (which cost £30 for 5mx45cm) reflected light quite a bit, but the DeepBlack stayed true to its name. Really pleased with the finish, and the edges are so much cleaner. I'd definitely recommend it to anyone looking to get a really black border on their DIY screen. Anyway, some (crappy phone) pics below for comparison.

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  2. Lord Lucan

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    Thanks for your posting I was looking at these products myself
     
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    Thanks for the write-up. The Deep Black looks less hairy as well. :)

    I bought some of the self-adhesive felt, probably the same stuff (from Amazon) and used a 30mm strip to cover up the white bar of my projector screen. Quite happy with the results but didn't need a very high standard of finish. I also used it as a backdrop for my TV stand which was open at the back and you could see all the cables - looks much better with the black felt. I agree the felt is very sticky stuff which makes it hard to work with, the adhesive is as thick as the felt itself!
     
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    Can this stuff be used on a screen that drops down or its it just for fixed screens?
     
  5. Ste0803

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    Reviving an old thread instead of starting a new one.

    This stuff is really good and here is an image with over spill shown and no reflection or light from the DeepBlack on the border of my screen.

    As you can see on the left of the image its overspilling by around 4-5 pixels and the right is my blackwidow screen with DeepBlack border tape.

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    Been looking and I think I've found the stuff.

    Self Adhesive Flock Material

    Widths and length's seem to match up with what I bought but obviously considerably cheaper. Wondering if anyone is willing to take the plunge and see if this is the same stuff.
     
  7. martian1

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    How does this companies screen material rate ? Anyone using it.. Thinking of buying the white ultra stuff for a new screen build
     
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    I asked that but no one seems to know, I'm considering ready made 92 inch from their range or squeezing out a few more inches and going diy
     
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    I have some of the PSM and I've ordered a sample of this.

    I'll compare and let you know.

    Steve W
     
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    I should mention, I'm particularly interested in this because of the width.

    My side masking panels will be 10.5cm wide. The larger PSM material is only 10.16cm wide. The larger from the above link is 13.4 wide.

    Steve W
     
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    Okay, I have samples now, so here goes.

    I use as reference the velvet border of my screen, because it's the blackest stuff I've seen, and because there's no point getting any blacker. The famous Devore is as black as the border IF it's turned so the nap is the right way.

    The PSM is identical to that border.

    The stuff Steve0803 linked to above is also identical. It's also available in wider strips.

    The D-C-Fix stuff is a tiny bit lighter in normal light, BUT, a hell of a lot cheaper, and...

    ...I used the DCF stuff to temporarily mask my 2.00:1 screen to 1.85:1. I then zoomed out so the image (I chose a very bright scene) over spilt on to both the masking and the screen's border. I could not see any difference, or perhaps if I sat and stared there was a difference too small to be bothered about.

    In other words, for practical purposes, when in use all three are effectively as dark as each other, and the DCFix is s lot cheaper.

    If in doubt, the DCFix is only £5 for 100cm x 45cm, available from Wilco and Amazon, so it's very cheap to get a sample.

    It has the added advantage of being self adhesive (peel and sticky back). Great for smaller areas.

    Steve W
     
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    Hi,
    Do you guys just stick this on the flat front of your screen and say cut a 45degree angle into the corners?, or do you wrap it around the edge?
     
  14. Ste0803

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    I wrapped mine round the edge as the composite sheet doesn't have the best looking edge as it's normally cut on guillotine.
     
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    Cheers Ste.
    What size tape did you go for?
    Im guessing I will have to calculate how much I will need to wrap around the edge when calculating the finished screen display size, not including the border.
     
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    I think i went for the 2" cut it in half and wrapped this. I only had an 8mm border though.
     
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    Feels velvety - just like the velvet border on my fixed frame screen.

    Steve W
     
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    Cannot find the DCFix stuff on a roll I want it around 50mm wide and on a 10m roll any links ?
     
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    Apologies to revive this old post, but I purchase a 10 metre roll of the 2 inch wide PSM tape but I haven't got round to applying it yet. I still cannot decide whether to just stick it directly to my home made screen (black-out material stretched over a timber frame) or purchase some timber trim !! Any thoughts for or against? :confused:o_O:D
     
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    3 reasons i used timber trim

    1. If you manage to apply it badly to your screen material then your could be stuck with the result..pardon the pun :)
    2. Looks neater
    3. If you change your material you can re- use the border.
    If your careful i see no reason for you not to just stick it on directly. The way i did it was for me and not everybody's taste.
     
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    Am going to buy some of this today so will let you lot know my thoughts.
     

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