PS3 Online: Analysis

AVRocky

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THE GOOD

Analysis of the PS3 Online

This is the first article in a 3-part series on the PS3 online.

Until recently, Sony has been remarkably quiet about the online capabilities of their long-awaited console. We are finally seeing the first concrete details of Sony’s online offering for the PS3. Over the next couple days I’ll be examining the pros and cons of Sony’s response to Microsoft’s Xbox Live service. After a lackluster showing on the PS2, Sony has vowed to match Microsoft’s online service feature for feature, and offer exclusives of its own.

PS3 Online: The Good
Sony has recently unveiled the first in-depth look at the PlayStation Network. Members of the press corps were allowed to experiment with the Cross Media Bar (XMB) and the PlayStation Store. The XMB is reminiscent of the PSP interface, which comes as no surprise given expectations that the PSP and PS3 will be interoperable. You’ll eventually be able to download content from your PS3 to your PSP. This includes movies, demos, and even PS1 games.

Even a cursory look at the XMB reveals that Sony has put a lot of thought into the design. The interface is sleek and simple to use. The XMB lays out all of PS3’s most anticipated features the PS3 in easily accessible buttons: Videos, Music, Photos, Games, etc. The media bar also provides all the standard functionality of a friends list, allowing you to send messages, add friends, and so on. Unfortunately, the media bar cannot currently be accessed from within any game.

The PlayStation Store has been designed with the same level of care as the XMB. A consistent interface makes for easy store navigation; many would consider this is an improvement over MS’s hectic Marketplace environment. It is also obvious that the site is designed to take on the iTunes Store.

Although there are no official plans for this yet, it is possible that the store will eventually be accessible on the Internet as well as the PS3. The design of the store certainly suggests that this wouldn’t be too difficult to accomplish. Being able to access your account from work would allow you to download demos and videos so that they are ready for you by the time you get home.

Sony also provides a web browser at no extra cost. It remains to be seen who exactly Sony is targeting with the web browser (perhaps the WebTV demographic), but it is consistent with their goal of making the PS3 a computer. I personally can’t see why you’d ever want to browse the web without a mouse or keyboard, but the PS3 also caters for that with their support of all USB standard devices. You can plug in any USB keyboard, and it’ll be instantly recognized.

Sony’s best new feature is their Electronic Distribution Initiative (EDI). At first, the severe shortage of information on this initiative was alarming. It came across as a hackneyed, half-thought out response to Microsoft’s Live Arcade service. However, more information has slowly trickled out in the past few weeks, and the EDI could turn out to be Sony’s brightest feature in the next-gen race.

EDI is not just a place for game developers to regurgitate old titles with slightly retooled graphics, nor just a dumping ground for casual games. It is a honest attempt at creating a space for indie games in the console world. EDI has been quietly working with a number of teams to come out with smaller scale games which would benefit from such an approach (“about 40” exclusive titles). One has to only look as far as David Jaffe’s latest offering to contemplate the possibilities of such a system. Yes, Sony still has a long way to go to fulfill the potential of EDI, but what we’ve seen so far is very promising.

Finally, Sony’s downloadable service in general seems very promising (EDI being just one part). Game demos and trailers will be available for free. You’ll be able to download PS1 games to play on your PSP (and one day on your PS3). Players will be able to access new game content and casual games at varying costs. It wouldn’t be a surprise either to eventually see downloadable movies and music available in the PlayStation Store.

All in all, Sony is making a very decent attempt at creating a competitor to the Xbox Live service. However, not everything is perfect with the PS3 online and tomorrow I will explore some of the problems surrounding Sony’s strategy.
 

AVRocky

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THE BAD

PS3 online: The Bad
Nothing is perfect, and Sony’s PlayStation Network is no exception. Not once did I mention multiplayer games in the previous piece. In fact, if you scour the internet, you’ll find very little mention of it anywhere; there is very little real information on the multiplayer support of the launch titles available out there.

The fact is, in its quest to surpass Microsoft’s Xbox Live service, Sony may have overlooked the most fundamental reason for online connectivity: playing online games with others.

Sony has carefully avoided all discussion on this topic, save for mentioning that Resistance: Fall of Man will support 40 players. The developers themselves are the only ones to have made any comments on the service provided. Resistance will offer up a full suite of online support, including “its own buddy list, clan registry, in-game messaging and chat services”. This is unfortunately damning for Sony as none of the PlayStation Network’s functionality is integrated into the game. The game’s buddy list, and Sony’s are two completely distinct entities.

The developers explain that Sony did not deliver the online libraries in a timely fashion. However, the author suggests that Sony never planned on providing a fully featured online system. He implies that Sony has only recently realized their mistakes and attempted to correct it. As we’ll see tomorrow, this assessment is actually closer to the truth than one might expect.

The reality is that the friend’s list support that Sony have provided in their libraries is terrible. From within a game, you are notified when your friends sign on and sign off (with a nice translucent overlay)…and that’s about it. Developers have no way of interfacing with this list in any useful manner. You can’t find out if your friends are watching a movie, surfing the net or playing another game. If you send them an invite, you have to hope they sign on to the same game you’re playing before they’ll even see it. Furthermore, there is currently no functionality to even “accept” the invite. It’s just a message to come join a game; it won’t actually take you to the game. Developers have to deal with that problem themselves.

Meanwhile, online stores are also proving to be a headache for developers. Nothing except rudimentary access to the Sony Wallet has been provided. Originally, these stores were only supposed to be skinned versions of the Sony Store. Developers are now expected to write their own in-game stores from scratch. While, you can still browse for a specific game’s content in the main Sony Store, I anticipate very few games will sport an online store, at least until Sony drastically improves their libraries. Sony needs to provide a complete commerce API to the its developers.

Several other games are having trouble with the PS3 online. Sega’s Virtua Tennis and Tony Hawk Project 8 have both dropped online support for the PS3. More precisely, they announced they never intended to support an online mode on the PS3. Of course, this is just PR speak meant to minimize embarrassment to Sony. We should ignore the fact that both games will still have multiplayer support on the Xbox 360. All this just screams to users: if you want a solid online experience, buy a Xbox 360. How embarrassing for Sony.

Virtua Tennis is not even due till March 2007. Does Sega really have no confidence in the online market for Sony’s console? Or are they just minimizing their risks?

Other games are also conspicuously hushed about their online support. MotorStorm will apparently not have online support in Japan. The games F.E.A.R. And Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Las Vegas all have extensive coverage of their online modes for the Xbox 360, but nary a word is mentioned in regards to the PS3.

Currently, there is also no default headset support, no voice support on the PS3. This feature has been a TRC requirement for every online game for the Xbox. Let me rephrase that: since the launch of Xbox Live (over 4 years ago), every online game released had to support voice chat. And of course, Microsoft provided libraries. If developers want to support voice chat on the PS3 right now, they have to implement it themselves.

The following quote from the developers of Marvel Nemesis (a PS3 launch title), best illustrates the situation:

“Unfortunately for PS3 owners, there is no headset support for this game. Feel free to give Sony the stink eye if you don’t like it.”

Other problems that developers are experiencing is the lack of basic access to the GUI interface used by the Sony PS3 OS. Unlike the Xbox, developers cannot position the overlays of the Sony GUI messages themselves; they have to work around them instead.

In online services, multiplayer support is the glue that holds everything together. You can not offer all the complimentary online services without first offering the core service of multiplayer support. Furthermore, these complimentary services (like a friends list, and downloadable content) need to be well integrated with all the online games.

Several areas of the PS3 online service look extremely polished, especially the cross media bar. In stark contrast, other areas look very incomplete, and not very well thought out. I get the distinct impression that Sony plans to patch a lot of this functionality in over time. The system is not ready for prime-time now. What will consumers think in the meantime? What about the games that have to launch with these sub-par libraries?

Sony has made serious in-roads in the online market with the PS3, but still falls short in several key areas, especially in developer support. The multiplayer support is still closer to the PS2 experience than Xbox Live. Things will have to improve in the long run.
 

bishman

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Where'd these lists come from Starfleets? For me the bad list there more than outweighs anything on the good list. I was beginning to feel excited about the PS3 after reading about the launch units but now I am back to indifference.
 

AVRocky

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THE UGLY

After exploring the good and bad of Sony’s PlayStation Network, it’s time to explore the ugly side of their online strategy: development support. This particular subject has not been made public except for a few rumblings here and there. It’s time to cut to the chase, and actually discuss the difficulties developers have encountered trying to work with Sony’s online libraries. These issues are important to highlight because they have had (and will continue to have) direct consequences on the quality of online/multiplayer games, and end-user’s experience.

PS3 Online: The Ugly

Unfortunately for Sony, we are no longer in the PS2 era, where everyone owned a PS2, and every developer had to create games for the console, if they hoped to turn a profit. Since Sony was so far ahead of the competition, it could provide terrible tools, and developers could do nothing about it. However, Microsoft has made significant inroads into the console market, and is now a very viable alternative to Sony for developers. Out of the three console makers, Microsoft provides by far the best development tools and support. Even Sony realizes this and has promised to provide better development tools this time around.

The problem remains that the PS3 is a difficult console to program due to the complex design of the hardware. Sony is a hardware company; its forte does not lie in software. As consequence, Sony’s development tools still lag far behind Microsoft’s.

To compound matters further, the Sony’s online support can only be described as poor to atrocious. Perhaps one day this will improve — after all, the console hasn’t even launched yet — but right now, the situation is dire. Sony seems to have taken the usual laissez-faire approach, which is to provide rudimentary online libraries and let individual developers figure out how they want to create lobbies, provide matchmaking abilities, track online scores and records. They are providing very few tools, and very little infrastructure.

The libraries seem to have been developed in a very ad-hoc way, with no clear goal in mind. For a long time, it seemed that developers were expected to implement every aspect of the online experience. Then Sony seemed to change their minds, and claim they would provide all the tools the developers would need. But then the promised features have rarely shown up. When they have appeared, it’s been in a very incomplete format, with the vague promise that things would be patched up in the future.

If the poor quality of the libraries wasn’t enough to hinder developers, then the repeated delays would definitely drive the nail in the coffin. Sony has been so slow in providing libraries and test hardware that it is surreal that it even expects developers to release launch games with online support. Even as recently as this summer, developers had still not received access to the Sony online test servers.

The development support in itself is already a serious issue, but it almost pales in comparison with the internal politics and friction that lies with the three major game divisions in Sony: Sony Japan (SCEI), Sony Europe (SCEE) and Sony America (SCEA). The creation of the worldwide games studios division was supposed to solve all the issues of internal divisiveness. Instead, it has done very little to stem the tide. No region seems to be clearly in charge of its own destiny. As a developer, you don’t produce a game for Sony, you produce it for one of the regions. If you release a game worldwide, then you must go through at least 3 separate QA processes. The worst problem is that each division has different strategies and different requirements, especially when it comes to online functionality.

Instead of working together to offer an online system and APIs to rival Xbox Live, they’ve each gone on their own developing their own systems, undercutting one another. Each region has a different idea of how important online support is, and whether or not games need to produce downloadable content, or have online support available at launch. For example, no Sony game can launch in North America without online support, whereas Sony Japan will accept games without it as long as they can be patched in later.

This disparity can be useful to cater to the different markets and peculiarities of each region. It becomes problematic for the developers who have to deal with conflicting demands. It just makes their lives more difficult.

The problems between different regions should not be understated. Sony Japan always has final say in any discussion, but different regions have trouble even communication with each other. Sony Japan rarely discusses anything with the two other divisions, let alone keeping them updated on what is in the pipeline. They just like to hand down unilateral decisions every once in a while. Sony Japan wants to continue to run the show, even though Sony America is a lot more experienced in online support.

As a relevant example, SCEA had apparently developed a complete online solution for the PS3 (to put it on par with Xbox Live for multiplayer support, ranking, achievements, etc). Sony Japan reportedly came in and cancelled the whole thing, simply saying, “no, you have to use the libraries we’ve put together”.

Perhaps what is most alarming is that several games scheduled for the US market have announced that they will be using Xfire as a middleware solution for their online support. The deal between Sony and Xfire comes at an extremely late stage in the run-up to the launch. It is clearly a move born out of desperation. It’s is a last minute decision to use middleware to ensure that games will launch with online support in the US, and it speaks volumes on Sony’s own online support (or lack thereof).

Xfire is simply a stand-in for the entire matchmaking and multiplayer side of the service Sony was supposed to offer (never mind that Xfire offers messaging as well). The following quote is most telling as to the gap in service in Sony’s offering.

“We support the PlayStation Network friends, matchmaking, and messaging service, and we’ve also integrated Xfire,” said Sites. “So you can use both, or you can choose to use Xfire, or just the PlayStation Network. We’ve integrated them so they work well together.”

The lack of a consistent system to offer multiplayer support will lead to vastly different levels of quality across different games. In comparison, Microsoft has only ever allowed one publisher to handle their own multiplayer service on Xbox Live: EA. And judging by how poorly consumers are responding to EA’s online support, EA is paying a steep price for its arrogant belief that they can always do better.

The route Sony has taken so far will only further fracture its online community into several smaller communities, unable to talk to one another, or interact with each other effectively.

When you speak to developers privately, they express a stunning level of frustration. Repeated delays in the delivery of online APIs, delays in coming-up with online testing kit, incomplete or missing libraries, promised features that are never delivered. The list goes on and on. They have to deal with the bloat of the OS, which eats up nearly 100 MB of memory (and one SPU), and provides very little functionality to the game. In comparison, the OS for the Xbox is rumored to only use up 3.5 MB.

“At present, however, there’s no system for actually reading or responding to messages while you’re still in the game, as the operating system doesn’t take resources away from games in order to do that - however, according to Harrison, that functionality may well appear in an OS update, presumably based on whether users actually express a desire for it or not.”

It’s surprising that the OS can take so much memory, and without being able to provide a mechanism for reading or responding to messages. Another example of bloat: if you want to draw the OS keyboard in game, it will use up a further 16 MB of memory. The OS will eat up another 16 MB of memory on top of the 100 MB it’s already using up; the amount of memory used by the OS is simply ludicrous.

I personally question Sony’s goal with their online service. It comes across as a purely money grabbing effort. Of course they are a business, and will seek to make as much money as possible. However, the only bright spot is the PlayStation Store, which is hoped to become the center for millions of micro-transactions. Every thing appears to be geared around the moneymaking side of the service. Meanwhile, the actual user online experience will suffer. It is as if Sony’s management failed to see the obvious fact that a poor multiplayer experience will not generate more sales in their online store.

As to the notion that - unlike Xbox Live with its subscription-based charges- to the fact that the service is free, the reality is that you get what you pay for. The multiplayer experience on the PS3 will pale in comparison to Xbox Live. The only games that will do well are the ones using Xfire, or those where the developer has invested a lot of their time creating a fun multiplayer experience.

It seems that Sony hasn’t actually learned their lesson from their days supporting developers on the PS2. Perhaps they will only realize their mistake once they have been knocked off their perch at the top. Let’s hope it’s not too late by then.

http://www.innerbits.com/blog/2006/1...he-ps3-online/
 

ukbootlegs

Well-known Member
Jesus

Sounds like a huge faux pas on behalf of Sony.

I must admit, I am not a big live user, the occassional game of Uno and maybe one or two games of Burnout and Table Tennis, but I can see its attraction.

This is not competing with MS at all.

And the memory usage is just crazy. What the hell is that about?

I can't believe it can take so much. Sounds to me like they shouldn't have released it yet but they need to get it out onto the market to start competing.

Doh!
 

just slackin'

Active Member
whoah, that is pretty damning. doesn't sound good at all.

i'd rather pay a yearly subscription for a decent online service (got next years xbox live for £2.99 after buying the pes5 box for £17.99 and then selling the game for £15). even at the full £39.99 for a year i think i'd rather pay.

i've never heard of innerbits though. are they pretty reliable?
 

j_s

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They best get their act together internally as it seems if they did they would have a very good online system from the beginning.
I have also read the browser is not that great in terms of plugin support and memory capacity (ign review), why start off with poor software :confused:
 
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Deleted member 92943

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And for those reasons, i NEVER intend to buy a PS3:smashin:

Microsoft will continue to make LIVE better and more enjoyable, and for that i don't see SONY catching up and even rivaling LIVE
 

Smak

Active Member
They have to deal with the bloat of the OS, which eats up nearly 100 MB of memory (and one SPU), and provides very little functionality to the game. In comparison, the OS for the Xbox is rumored to only use up 3.5 MB.
The PS3 was rumored to use 93MB but nothing has been confirmed, if I recall correctly the 360 uses 33MB+ not 3.5MB.
 

slackbladder

Active Member
Sony may lose some sales if there online is poor, but not so much to remotely damage them or the overall sales of the console. People may not like it but it doesn't follow that they won't buy it. It's just not that simple. It certainly has little impact on me as even though I have a 360 I spend less than 3 or 4 hours a week online. I'm sure I'm not alone.
Anyway that list might be pre-launch. It would be better to keep an eye on the unfolding of the PS3 launch in Japan and later the US to get a better picture of the PS3's online service, though I'm sure plenty in the article is accurate. But which bits?
This is also interesting - www.eurogamer.net
This week, some of our deepest fears about Sony's online service were confirmed when Insomniac's Ted Price revealed in an interview that one of the biggest launch titles for the console, Resistance: Fall of Man, is set to use its own buddy list, clan registry, in-game messaging and chat services, and so on. While the game sounds like it has a very extensive and comprehensive range of online gaming options, and it runs on Sony's international network of servers to guarantee a high standard of network performance for online play, the simple fact is that the last hurdle Sony needed to jump has been missed, at least for the launch titles. The central buddy list doesn't integrate into the game; you'll need to add all your friends again to play against them in Resistance.
Well, damn..I have to spend a minute of my life writing out names again! Damn Sony!
Sorry, I'm being petulent (slap wrist).
 

runam0k

Well-known Member
The PS3 was rumored to use 93MB but nothing has been confirmed, if I recall correctly the 360 uses 33MB+ not 3.5MB.
33MB makes sense, given the option to stream music, access personal settings, the friends list, send/receive messages and updates, voice chat across games, leave feedback, etc. Actually, it still seems like a lot.

93MB for notifications, reset to XMB and an off button makes no sense. Even if they're planning to patch in features it sounds a lot like bloatware. :eek:

I can't wait for the US launch. It seems to me most of the 80,000+ JPN units are on Yahoo auctions. Once the US systems are out in the wild we should get passed most of the rumours and conjecture.
 

Magus

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I'm inclined to agree with you Slackbladder. I have had my 360 for whats coming to a year now & tbh, initially I was playing PGR3 online a fair bit but I cannot honestly say the last time I played it online...in fact I'm not sure when I played it last at all...I think it was a drive about in TDU. What I think is great on Xbox Live is having the ability to download playable demos as I think I would have wasted some money on games that I thought were good.

I am looking at the PS3 as a games console (& Bluray player as I probably would never buy one till they dropped down to bargain prices) to play agianst AI or mates who come round...like the old days...but I guess I'm just getting old! I don't believe the 'lack' of online capability of the PS3 will damage sales only if games start to revolve around online capability than if what is true above, I think the PS3 will be severely disabled. Saying that I'm sure Sony too will be updating their OS & those changes may happen over time...I think to early to judge BUT comparing it to Xbox Live, then it certainly is below par.
 

just slackin'

Active Member
the software side is something which worries me.

i have a sony ericsson phone and a sony net md minidisc player and the software for both is truly apalling. in the case of the minidisc player sony have been promising new software for about 3 years but it has never materialised.

im not sure if it is technical ability or laziness which is holding them back but i would pause for a second before assuming that they will actively fix software issues.
 

Smak

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93MB for notifications, reset to XMB and an off button makes no sense. Even if they're planning to patch in features it sounds a lot like bloatware. :eek:
Sorry I forgot to put the word rumored in bold, no figure has ever been anoucned before you start taking the 93MB as gospal.
 

runam0k

Well-known Member
Sorry I forgot to put the word rumored in bold, no figure has ever been anoucned before you start taking the 93MB as gospal.
I caught the word 'rumoured'. Actually, I believe the rumour is 96MB. ;)

In any event it remains a rumour until people with actual knowledge comment. NDAs might mean it remains a rumour though, much like the 360's 32MB Guide.

US launch is 4 days and counting. I'm actually pretty excited for them. There's just something about game console launches.
 

Smak

Active Member
NDAs might mean it remains a rumour though, much like the 360's 32MB Guide.
Yeah if the figure is as high as 93-96mb then I'm sure they will want to keep it quiet, I hate NDA's, there is so much info about RSX that I doubt we will ever know.
 

ukkev2000

Novice Member
the software side is something which worries me.

i have a sony ericsson phone and a sony net md minidisc player and the software for both is truly apalling. in the case of the minidisc player sony have been promising new software for about 3 years but it has never materialised.

im not sure if it is technical ability or laziness which is holding them back but i would pause for a second before assuming that they will actively fix software issues.
It's lack of money.

From my own experience of working for a company remarkably like Sony, the fact that sexy hardware needs so much software nowadays has rather scuppered their plans. That's why I've always said that Msoft as a software company was light years ahead in this next gen of consoles.

I also agree that most people will be far too busy playing RFOM and blu-ray pr0n to worry about the lack of online goodness.

Hmm large OS resources, is that due to all those processors?
 

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