Discussion in 'Playstation Forums' started by Kube, Mar 15, 2006.
I wonder what will happen. Didnt Microsoft also buy part of Immersion?
Yep, they were sued too by Immersion, but settled out of court for £25m+ and took a 10% stake in the business (if memory serves correctly)
yep you are right
Immersion are suing for around 90m iirc. Why would sony pull a product that earns them much more? Theyll either settle out of court or pay up. Frankly i hope they keep fighting. I hate to think we'll no longer get vibration feedback in ourgames becuase of some obscure company and patent. Its like when Capcom tried to patent streetfighter type games due to all the copycat fighters that emerged in the 90's (they lost). Its typical American litigation nonsense, all about corporate interest.
I remember the first dual analogue (for ps1) had the rumble removed in the uk due to some patent by nintendo at the time. Really annoyed me that, greedy scums.
Blame Microsoft if it happens, the deal they struck gave them the power to block Immersion from granting licenses to any of their competitors.
Anyway, surely they only have to pull the controllers, not the consoles themselves. And how does this affect all the 3rd party manufacturers?
Well that maybe true but the controller comes in the box with the console and what good is the console without a controller?
That's why I asked about third parties. They could always do a deal with logitech to bundle their controllers with it or something.
Hahaha made me laugh that story
Imagine Sony having to recall every PS2 and de badge the controllers lmao
I know. It's ridiculous isn't it? Just goes to show what lengths MS will go to, to win the console wars. Use the same tech, then buy shares in the company so that no-one else can use it, and sue at the same time.
It has nothing to do with microsoft, Sony were told about the patent infringement before microsoft even thought about consoles but they still went ahead and made the pads. If anything it is sony trying to bully the little guy ( Immersion) who Just happened to have some big backers (nintendo).
Microsoft paid up because it is easier and cheaper to write a check than to fight a case you cannot win. Immersion just want what they are due as the holders of the patent
I think its more based around the arrogance of Sony thinking they would get away with it, and getting caught out.
I hope they make Sony de badge every controller on the market. Maybe next time Sony will think before they act.
more than likely that they will refuse rumble for ps3 controllers
MS part own the company. How can it be nothing to do with them? Sure, I understand that Sony were supposed to pay up sums of cash, but so were MS. They paid a little, then bought a percantage of the company to bugger up Sony. Which has worked.
Whatever the case, I'm sure the rumble feature will not be entirely removed. One motor perhaps? Perhaps Sony will try and get their own back for infringement of twin analogue sticks. Let's face it, both Nintedo and MS would be buggered then...
As stated before. I can't see them withdrawing the PS2 entirely, when it clearly makes them so much money...
It all started before MS took over them if you read info above MS was also sued but payed a settlement and bought part of the company.
Sony have been steeling technology for years it about time they get what they deserve
could not agree any more.
Microsoft steal from everyone anyway.
Where is the justice?
Microsoft get more "justice" brought against them than any other company imo. they are constantly in trouble with the EU over anti trust issues and have been fined a hell of alot of money.
MS were sued just like sony in this case. MS decided to settle but sony decided to fight. It apeears at the moment sony made a bad decision and MS made the correct one. Such is life.
Do Sony have a patent on twin sticks then? I don't think so.
Probably not. But as they "intoduced" twin sticks with the PS1, I thought they MIGHT have...
sony do have a patent on a game controller wand though...
as for immersion, they have single handedly stopped the force feedback development community in its tracks by claiming to have a patent that covers anything controlled by a computer. Im a hardcore racing sim fan, so im pretty well aware of just how bad the immersion technology is in force feedback controllers.
they are lawsuit happy, and their patent is stifling for the industry.
Yes they definately applied for a patent on a gaming wand, has it been granted though? It works quite differently to the Nintendo one so I'm sure that Ninty are quite safe in this regard.
Does this document http://www.wipo.int/ipdl/IPDL-CIMAGES/images3.jsp?WEEK=32/2005&DOC=05/073838&TYPE=A2&TIME=1124716231 mean they have the patent?
All these bloody lawsuits are ridiculous. All the companies copy each other at some point. Instead of going against each other, why don't they work TOGETHER for a change? After all, they are in the same industry. Why not try and advance things in a positive way?
Take Eyetoy. Yeah Nintendo had a camera add-on for GBA, N64, etc..but never to the extent that Eyetoy is...Nintendo release the Wavebird...and MS go one better with the 360 pad.
Competition is good. As long as it is fair.
Sony knew about immersions technology a long time ago and just thought they could get away with using it. Immersion ifeel is used it a lot of software to help us disabled out so please dont knock it too much. Companies pay liscenes to use it like Logitech with there mice and steering wheels and Act labs with there forcefeedback wheels (now stopped as they lost money making the great units). Microsoft went there own way with there own software forcefeedback on there items on the PC. All PC peripheral market is practically defunct now as it cost too much to make and the sim market has died out, its got nothing to do with immersions technology patents.
Funniest thing i've read in ages Bad luck SONY
Still laughing about it now
Isn't most stuff copied in most products.
Separate names with a comma.