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Propsed HC Planning Stages (YOUR chance to design!!)

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Building DIY' started by Gadfium, Jan 8, 2005.

  1. Gadfium

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    OK...here we go on a looooong project!

    I extended my house last year, adding an extra bedroom over the garage and xtending the kitchen. i had toyed with the idea of converting the garage to a HC, but was never really convinced that that was the way to go (steel beams had to go in to support the new bedroom which would have left it very narrow + I really need the garage to keep my stuff in it).

    Having seen Steve Kinsey's HC room http://www.dvdlard.co.uk/content.php?id=1385 (his house looks almost identical to mine pre-conversion), I have decided to start planning a new HC room accross the back of the house. I am at the real early stages, but I really believe that the more planning i put in, the better it will be! The only issue will be that it will takes damn ages to do (I need to give my builder 13 months notice for a start :eek: )....realistically it will be Spring 2006 at the earliest before the real work will start.

    Anyhoo.... I plan to do this:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Gadfium/ProposedHCRoomPlanView.jpg
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    Now there is a shed load of stuff to get sorted befoure any building work starts :( .....the ground is really poor where I am...structural engineers need to get involved to decide on a raft or a piled foundation (when I built the extension the piles went down 9mtrs!)...the central heating boiler will need to be moved...the foul water drains need re-positioning...the list goes on and on....

    This does give me loads of time to decide on budgets for AV gear (I appreciate that it is going to be a long time B4 I buy kit, but i want to set a budget for each element), and how the room will be laid out (and this is where you guys can help with your experience :thumbsup: )..... Things that I am considering are:
    Do I put in a "standard" ceiling or go for a vaulted ceiling with Velux skylights??? Would the extra room volume help with the sound (I am considering the AE Evo3 5.1 speaker set (budget for speakers wll be about £800-£1K)....are these too big for a room with these dimensions?).
    Do I go for carpeted floors or wood (I prefer wood generally, but realise that this might make the room sound harsh).
    What about putting curtains down both sides of the room to damp out reflections...(ideally i would like to half carpet the room walls but I don't think that SWMBO would allow it!). This would also help to "black out" the room for maximum DVD pleasure!
    What about the PJ screen (my PJ budget will be in the region of £1500-£2K..Themescene H56...or equivalent when i come to buy???)
    Is 7.1 overkill for a room of this size???

    At this point I am open to all suggestions.....any ideas???
     
  2. Starkiller

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    Looks like a good plan, I would Def recommend the Themescene, had mine a year now and still love it. Wiring up for 7.1 or allowing for future expansion in cabling i worth taking some time over.

    while your waiting for your builder to finish, you could see if you gear fits in your lounge as mine does.
    I have a 2m wide elec scr fitted in a baywindow, the scr box is hidden when up, behind a curtian pelmet and a board hides it from outside. with voile dressing the window you cant see anything. for movie time blackout material seals the lightout then the scr is framed by the curtians. The PJ is place on a shelf on the back wall and my centre spk is moved from the corner TV to a coffee table. so its normal lounge to Cinima in 5min
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  3. Gadfium

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    Starkiller......thats a cracking idea :thumbsup: 'bout putting the screen in the door/wind area. I could move on set of french doors to the gable end and have the screen mounted there (will think about this in more depth...).

    i could even mount the centre high above the door (between door and ceiling) so it can be premantly fixed.

    This is exactly why i wanted to solicit ideas....it is going to be ages b4 bricks are laid.....so i can work it all out in my mind in advance. The only problem is that i want to get cracking on it NOW :mad:
     
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    BTW...do you route Sky thru the PJ, or is it DVD use only???
     
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    Gadfium - it's great too see your enthusiasm and I'm sure with perseverance and regular attendance on these forums you will maintain it for the long haul.

    There's a wealth of knowledge here when it comes to the self build H\C. I'm sure you have been browsing and I do recommend you spend some quality time looking through the various self builds threads people have lovingly reported here and start to take stock of the many considerations you might have in light of these experiences. I found it particularly useful to write a project brief at the outset (if you do a search for Home Entertainment Project Brief against my user name you may find it and it may be a useful starting point.... there are others too). Nailing down your requirements now will help you stay true to your vision, serve as a useful reference point, aid the development of your plans as the time goes on, or simply let you see what you considered to be the end game and how in 2 years you have moved or not from that starting point.

    I still haven't bought AV kit yet and trust me that has been hard. I am benefiting from this however. 8 months ago I considered a completely different AV set up to the one I am now considering. This has been of benefit to me because I feel my investment will be informed, considered and not rash... I can however see the benefits to simply buying kit now and enjoying it..You can always upgrade as your needs change to suit the evolution of your H|C room.... That said, it’s taken me about 8 months to demo half the kit that's been on my various shortlists... so you may be surprised at how this can become a vocational habit in itself and time can pass simply visiting HiFi shops every weekend!

    Happy planning (I find this a joy in itself... though I am a Project Manager and a bit sad like this). Once you've pulled something together, post it and watch it evolve over the coming months. :)
     
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    Digisocialist.......Thanks for the encouragement. i have been lurking on this forum for ages, and have been toying with the HC concept for ages, but there has always been something else to get sorted (i.e SWMBO has usually got a list of more important stuff to be sorted first!).....

    The planning is half the fun....and i get to benefit from others experience.

    I am still undecided on a vaulted ceiling or "standard" ceiling. Would the extra room volume be of benefit, do you think?
     
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    Glad you liked the idea, Ive been meaning to take some pictures and write it up.

    For My H56 i use a Keene synblaster Optma-kit with a special ordered 10m cable its takes the Scart RGB signal and converts it to component RGB monitor 9 pin connection(dont know why theres a difference :confused: , but there is :lesson: )

    this allow you to use the built in progress scan thing with any RGB enabled SCART
    and finally answering the question, Sky and DVD can be viewed by swaping the scart to the PJ. One day ill sort some video switching
     
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    Gad,
    Good luck with your HC set up, this is definately the forum to be on whilst doing it.
    Just out of interest what software did you use to produce your drawings?
     
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    Strider-nje...I used Autocad [badly!....its years since i used it last. Release 11 was the latest at the time] for some of the basic plans, and 3D Home Design Deluxe for the rendering (which is actually quite good for basic planning....wouldnt want to build a house from it tho......)

    Starkiller...is there any issue using such a long lead??? Do you see any loss in quality? I will almost certainly go down the HDMI route though when the time comes, and am toying with having the AV kit at the back or side of the room (keeps the lead length to a minimum.

    About using the PJ for SKY, do you find that wide-screen viewing loses some of it's impact when used for watching telly????? Familarity breeds contempt and all that...
     
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    Id use HDMI too, but my dvd/sky doesnt support it. if i could afford the Marantz SR8500 it go down that route. personally i dont see any flaws with this cable length, but if the cable was too short you'd get no pic :suicide: :clown:

    We only watch good stuff on the PJ off sky, so no soaps or reality TV :boring: .
     

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