Projectors with lens memories for different aspect ratios?

Mr Wolf

Well-known Member
I've decided that as part of my next projector upgrade I want to replace my 100" 16:9 screen with a 125" 2.35:1 screen. Incredibly, despite having about the same screen height, for 2.35:1 movies this will increase the total picture area by 74%.

I'm aware that the Epson 7400/9400s have it, but are there any other projectors out there (under £5k) that allow you to create different memories for using different aspect ratios?
 
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kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
I've decided that as part of my next projector upgrade I want to replace my 100" 16:9 screen with a 125" 2.35:1 screen. Incredibly, despite having about the screen height, for 2.35:1 movies this will increase the total picture area by 74%.

I'm aware that the Epson 7400/9400s have it, but are there any other projectors out there (under £5k) that allow you to create different memories for using different aspect ratios?

I'd stick to Epson Sony or JVC for lens memory functionality. Need tried and tested reliable-ish companies with good ecosystems. Epson's is very very flexible.. no brainer IMo.
 

Mr Wolf

Well-known Member
Thanks guys. That pretty much makes the decision for me. Epson it is.

Given how long it's been out, I was hoping the 9400 might get replaced shortly so that I might be able to bag a discounted deal on the run-off.

Is there any word on when a replacement model might be released?
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
Thanks guys. That pretty much makes the decision for me. Epson it is.

Given how long it's been out, I was hoping the 9400 might get replaced shortly so that I might be able to bag a discounted deal on the run-off.

Is there any word on when a replacement model might be released?


Probably soon-ish. I'd estimate <12 months now, likely an announcement within <6 months but god knows when we actually get them in hand. Also I'm sure when they are released, they'll be pre-ordered up to hell and back as a lot of 9400/9300/9200 owners will want to upgrade.

You could always get a 9300 instead if you don't need the full bandwith hdmi ports for 4k, 60 and hdr at the same time but you miss out on the HDR slider. That should be available for £1000-£1300 dependant on warranty situation.
 

linnasak

Active Member
I think the nicest solution currently is the Lumagen auto aspect ratio scaling. Perhaps check out projector + used Lumagen option. Now Lumagen is quite expensive but gives you picture upgrade, I know some dealers who were pairing it with the old Epsom 10500 as a new combo for example.

Slightly more left field , I would check out screen masking options, with the increase in imax ratio switching. You could go for screen masking memory, but this is very expensive at the moment, but perhaps some diy solutions may appear. Basically you would go for a large 16x9 and then mask it down to 2.35. Some members are doing manual masking of 2.35 down to 16:9. To do similar on a 16:9 to 2.35 is just as practical. Challenge would be to automate!

kevin
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
I think the nicest solution currently is the Lumagen auto aspect ratio scaling. Perhaps check out projector + used Lumagen option. Now Lumagen is quite expensive but gives you picture upgrade, I know some dealers who were pairing it with the old Epsom 10500 as a new combo for example.

Slightly more left field , I would check out screen masking options, with the increase in imax ratio switching. You could go for screen masking memory, but this is very expensive at the moment, but perhaps some diy solutions may appear. Basically you would go for a large 16x9 and then mask it down to 2.35. Some members are doing manual masking of 2.35 down to 16:9. To do similar on a 16:9 to 2.35 is just as practical. Challenge would be to automate!

kevin
Isn’t this just a linear stretch?

madvr does this and I think it’s horrible for some or a lot of content
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
I've decided that as part of my next projector upgrade I want to replace my 100" 16:9 screen with a 125" 2.35:1 screen. Incredibly, despite having about the same screen height, for 2.35:1 movies this will increase the total picture area by 74%.

I'm aware that the Epson 7400/9400s have it, but are there any other projectors out there (under £5k) that allow you to create different memories for using different aspect ratios?
Have you thought about just painting a wall? Makes switching image sizes very easily and cost effective. I did it this year and I love being able to go from cinema mode to iMax mode.
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
Does the scaling but with Lumagen magic!
What do you mean magic?
I’ve seen the scaling before and it just stretches and crops the image but a bit more subtlety.
Or are you referring to something else?
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
Does the scaling but with Lumagen magic. Interested if others prefer lens memories as you need to adjust other settings with zoom


This looks horrible mate. Everything is stretched and you lose data off the top and bottom of the image.

The guys look so wide and fat like cartoon characters with nls. Without they look tall and normal lol
 

Mr Wolf

Well-known Member
Have you thought about just painting a wall? Makes switching image sizes very easily and cost effective. I did it this year and I love being able to go from cinema mode to iMax mode.
Happy to be wrong but I'd always assumed that painting a wall would bring down the PQ significantly compared to a fixed frame screen.

This is the screen I've been thinking of getting for when I get a new projector.

Spitfire Premier Fixed Frame 2.35:1 Home Cinema Projection Screen 125 Inch - Projection Screens - AV Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

It's pretty much exactly the same height as my current 100" 16:9 screen so 16:9 images would be the same size as now but 2:35.1 images would be about 74% larger (in area).
 

linnasak

Active Member
What do you mean magic?
I’ve seen the scaling before and it just stretches and crops the image but a bit more subtlety.
Or are you referring to something else?
Try to leave the projector set on one ratio, as when zoom out / in need to adjust focus etc, also brightness changes etc. Can do with multiple calibrations. Probably best viewing is still in non scaled 2.35 mode. Hence if I was looking to put new screen in now would explore the screen masking route. Issue is that it is really expensive!

kevin
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
Happy to be wrong but I'd always assumed that painting a wall would bring down the PQ significantly compared to a fixed frame screen.

This is the screen I've been thinking of getting for when I get a new projector.

Spitfire Premier Fixed Frame 2.35:1 Home Cinema Projection Screen 125 Inch - Projection Screens - AV Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

It's pretty much exactly the same height as my current 100" 16:9 screen so 16:9 images would be the same size as now but 2:35.1 images would be about 74% larger (in area).

I have 2 draper react 3s and the screen paint is as good tbh. Dunno compared to a white screen tho.
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
Try to leave the projector set on one ratio, as when zoom out / in need to adjust focus etc, also brightness changes etc. Can do with multiple calibrations. Probably best viewing is still in non scaled 2.35 mode. Hence if I was looking to put new screen in now would explore the screen masking route. Issue is that it is really expensive!

kevin

Good point, would need two sets of profiles but the advantage is you maximise space for the most immersive image possible
 

linnasak

Active Member

This looks horrible mate. Everything is stretched and you lose data off the top and bottom of the image.

The guys look so wide and fat like cartoon characters with nls. Without they look tall and normal lol
Hi

you misunderstand me, the scaling reduces the image to fit inside the 2.35 screen so you have black bars left and right. Would not advocate stretch!
Kevin
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
Hi

you misunderstand me, the scaling reduces the image to fit inside the 2.35 screen so you have black bars left and right. Would not advocate stretch!
Kevin

Ahhh!! Makes more sense 👍👍

I personally like maximising picture size when possible but it is bad for accuracy and calibration
 

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